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    Hi, all!
    I detected one old Russian site about the Stalingrad battle.
    It's not famous, but it's in ENGLISH
    http://www.stalingrad.by.ru

    It contains similar sections to my one, but not much materials.
    Rather detailed is OOB and documental sections. Unfortunately only few maps presented. As the site was opened in 2000 it may be dead, but information is still available
    If you fire a rifle at the past, the future will fire a cannon at you.....

  • #2
    Good site!

    JS
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    • #3
      my teacher, who is dumbass, said that Stalingrad didn't do anything for the war and it is completely overrated. What an idiot:crazy:

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      • #4
        Originally posted by nreese21
        my teacher, who is dumbass, said that Stalingrad didn't do anything for the war and it is completely overrated. What an idiot:crazy:
        What?????????? He's a teacher??????????
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        • #5
          Originally posted by nreese21
          my teacher, who is dumbass, said that Stalingrad didn't do anything for the war and it is completely overrated. What an idiot:crazy:
          Is he still reading old copies of SIGNAL or something?!?!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by nreese21
            my teacher, who is dumbass, said that Stalingrad didn't do anything for the war and it is completely overrated. What an idiot:crazy:
            What does this bozo teach, Wood Shop?

            JS
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            • #7
              Originally posted by nreese21
              my teacher, who is dumbass, said that Stalingrad didn't do anything for the war and it is completely overrated. What an idiot:crazy:
              Unfortunately being a teacher can't protect from being an idiot

              Once I heard about RUSSIAN teacher who seriosly recommended books of V.Rezun (nick: V.Suvorov) as a historical ones!! :bang: :bang: :demon: :armed:

              If you is unaware of this "great historian", I can tell you that hardly in his books to find real historical fact in which he hadn't been mistaken. Especially in technical issues.

              P.S. I'm not going to start a discussion on this topic.....
              If you fire a rifle at the past, the future will fire a cannon at you.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by amvas
                Once I heard about RUSSIAN teacher who seriosly recommended books of V.Rezun (nick: V.Suvorov) as a historical ones!!
                I didn't know his real name.

                Why shouldn't he be taught -- was he that wrong? I've read a couple of his books.

                JS
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                "Never pet a burning dog."

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                http://www.sca.org
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nreese21
                  my teacher, who is dumbass, said that Stalingrad didn't do anything for the war and it is completely overrated. What an idiot:crazy:
                  Just tell him the facts:

                  1. 5 million... 5 million combatants and lets not forget the civilians, there was plenty of fighting. If he is a pro-American type, D-Day doesn't compare.

                  2. The entire German 6th Army, its most elite was eliminated.

                  3. The loss of Stalingrad eventually forced Germany into the position for its failed attack on the Kursk Salient. The largest tank battle of the war if he wants to know.

                  4. Maybe he should read Stalingrad by Antony Beevor, great book.
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                  • #10
                    You know, it's not just teachers that are that way.

                    When I was in High School, which seems like 1000 years ago but was after WW2, a couple of students were talking in class. The teacher asked them what they were talking about, and one of the boys, in a very rude, mocking tone of voice, said "The Battle of the Bulge -- have you ever heard of it?"

                    The teacher, whose name I wish I remember, was an FO in a church steeple in St. Vith, and spent the rest of the hour telling us all about the battle.

                    The student, red-faced, apologized when the teacher was done.

                    JS
                    Barcsi János ispán vezérőrnagy
                    Time Magazine's Person of the Year for 2003 & 2006


                    "Never pet a burning dog."

                    RECOMMENDED WEBSITES:
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                    http://www.sca.org
                    http://www.scv.org/
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Janos
                      I didn't know his real name.

                      Why shouldn't he be taught -- was he that wrong? I've read a couple of his books.

                      JS

                      Ohhhhh....It's SO long story to speak about this, that I'm not able do it just now....This needs much time taking into account also time for translating. He's absolute lamer in soviet vehicles and planes (almost all his words is lie and easily can be disproved
                      (for example his statements about BT tanks, Pe-8 bomber etc))

                      Unfortunately there are no Anti-Rezun books in English (at least I don't know such) but lots of profesionnaly (and unprofessionally done too) books and articles in Russian. But really, to disprove him you need to write a book...or several books. If he loudly claims something that means that he can't prove this by facts.
                      He widely use corrections and cuting of original citates for proofing his point of view.

                      I hope to buy the latest book of A.Isaev soon which hope to be the most complete anti-Rezun book.
                      Other two ones I obtain which of the same contents themselves contains mistakes (not more than Rezun's book, but also sufficient number):armed:

                      On some sites (like http://rkka.ru) even forbidden to discuss Rezun's books as they conidered by majority of qualified military net society to be absolutely wrong
                      If you fire a rifle at the past, the future will fire a cannon at you.....

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                      • #12
                        AMVAS,

                        David Glantz's book "Stumbling Colossus" was written as a counterpoint to Rezin's claim that the USSR was preparing to attack Germany.
                        Glantz pretty much detailed that the USSR was in no shape to attack in July 1941.

                        Craig

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Craig C
                          AMVAS,

                          David Glantz's book "Stumbling Colossus" was written as a counterpoint to Rezin's claim that the USSR was preparing to attack Germany.
                          Glantz pretty much detailed that the USSR was in no shape to attack in July 1941.

                          Craig
                          Hey Craig C!

                          Welcome to ACG and thanks for a good first post.

                          The true question is not whether or not the Russian army was prepared to attack, but whether or not Stalin and the Stavka knew it. Hitler wasn't really prepared for Barbarossa either, but didn't let that bother him.

                          Check out my Grandfather's cousin's testimony at the Nuremberg trials. General der Gebirgstruppen August Winter's testimony is at www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/v15menu.htm. The Russians were coming -- I am convinced.

                          JS
                          Barcsi János ispán vezérőrnagy
                          Time Magazine's Person of the Year for 2003 & 2006


                          "Never pet a burning dog."

                          RECOMMENDED WEBSITES:
                          http://www.mormon.org
                          http://www.sca.org
                          http://www.scv.org/
                          http://www.scouting.org/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Janos
                            Hey Craig C!

                            Welcome to ACG and thanks for a good first post.

                            The true question is not whether or not the Russian army was prepared to attack, but whether or not Stalin and the Stavka knew it. Hitler wasn't really prepared for Barbarossa either, but didn't let that bother him.

                            Check out my Grandfather's cousin's testimony at the Nuremberg trials. General der Gebirgstruppen August Winter's testimony is at www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/v15menu.htm. The Russians were coming -- I am convinced.

                            JS
                            I'd love to read this Janos but I get an error message that the page is no longer there?
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                            • #15
                              Janos,

                              Actually I am sending this from work (I'm Craig Crofoot) so I had to re-register using my work address.

                              Actually, using the NKVD intelligence apparatus, the Soviets did know the Germans were biulding up their forces on the border. The question was what their analysis was of the German intentions.

                              Craig

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