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  • Soviet OOB in Budapest 12.20.44

    can anyone direct me to the appropriate source and/or post this?

    thanks in advance.
    "When you die on the battlefield, make sure that your corpse faces the enemy camp."
    -Hakagure

  • #2
    You can contact Craig Crofoot. He can have something.
    Also Laszlo Nemedi and Randall Pukalo are interested in this battle too and have many good sources.
    I also have some data, but they are distributed through different sources, and I'm too busy now to process them immediately....

    I failed to find any good detailes of this battle in the net.
    Maps may be found on my site. More in the books which aren't processed yet
    If you fire a rifle at the past, the future will fire a cannon at you.....

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    • #3
      thanks amvas.

      Craig, you there?
      "When you die on the battlefield, make sure that your corpse faces the enemy camp."
      -Hakagure

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      • #4
        Uber,

        I have the OB for 01.12.44 and 01.01.45, but I'm not sure how much area you want.

        AMVAS, do you have the map for th Budapest Operation? I have it, but I don't have a scanner.

        Craig
        Search in the past, for there you will find your future.

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        • #5
          Craig, Im specifically looking for info re: the 12-20-44 Soviet offensive in and around the city.

          I think the 12-1-44 OB would work nicely. Can you post?

          Thanks in advance!
          "When you die on the battlefield, make sure that your corpse faces the enemy camp."
          -Hakagure

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Craig Crofoot


            AMVAS, do you have the map for th Budapest Operation? I have it, but I don't have a scanner.

            Craig
            I have some maps more from the books, I had scanned. But thouse maps aren't processed yet. they needed to be cut off the PDF file and combined together as they are large and consists of two pieces.

            How can it be that you have no scanner???
            Even I have one..heh, not counting that ~5 on my workplaces
            If you fire a rifle at the past, the future will fire a cannon at you.....

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            • #7
              You can see a high detailed overview. If you need more info on a specific unit/group let me know...

              This is from David M. Glantz symposium "book", thanks him...
              Attached Files
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              • #8
                OOB 1 Jan 1945

                Just a quick list. Looking at the map provided above, it seems that the 1 Jan 1945 OOB is more correct for 22 Dec then the 1 Dec 1944 OOB.

                Not having researched the battle I am just providing a listing of the main units again going by the map

                2nd Ukrainian Front

                7GA
                25GRC (6GABD, 53, 409 RD)
                27GRC (36G, 141, 243, 303 RD)
                30RC (25G, 151, 155 RD)
                27 G Tk Bde
                16 Breakthrough Artillery Div
                26 AA Art Div

                6GTA
                5GTC (20, 21,22 GTB 6GMRB)
                9GMC (18, 30, 31 GMB 46 GTB)

                CMG
                3GCC (9G, 10G, 30 CD)
                6GCC (8G, 13G, 8 CD)
                4GMC (13, 14, 15 GMB 36 GTB)

                Front Reserves
                18GRC (66G, 68G, 297, 317 RD)
                133RC (21, 104, 122 RD)
                93GRD

                3rd Ukrainian Front

                4GA
                20GRC (5GABD, 7GABD, 40GRD)
                21GRC (62G, 69G RD)
                31GRC 4G, 34G, 80G RD)
                68RC (52, 93, 223 RD)
                135RC (41G, 84, 252 RD)

                46A
                10GRC (49G, 86G, 109G, 180 RD)
                23RC (99, 316 RD, 83 MRB)
                37RC (59G, 108G, 320 RD)

                Front Reserves
                5GCC (11G, 12G, 63 CD)
                7MC (16, 63, 64 MRB, 41GTB)
                7 Breakthrough Art Div
                9 Breakthrough Art Div
                3, 4, 9, 22 AA Art Div

                Regards
                Michael Avanzini

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                • #9
                  ALmost Forgot

                  Not on the Soviet OOB list is the 7th Romanian Army Corps

                  7AC (Romainian)
                  2nd, 19 Inf Divs
                  9 Cav Div
                  66 GRD

                  And in 46th Army the 83MRB is 83rd Marine Rifle Brigade not Motor

                  Michael

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                  • #10
                    Great info!

                    Can anyone else add to this?
                    "When you die on the battlefield, make sure that your corpse faces the enemy camp."
                    -Hakagure

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Uberdave
                      Great info!

                      Can anyone else add to this?
                      What do you need? Just too tired to translate and type many pages :chair:
                      a brain cell

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by laszlo.nemedi
                        What do you need? Just too tired to translate and type many pages :chair:
                        Laszlo:
                        Do you have the Hungarian and German OBs?

                        JS
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Janos
                          Laszlo:
                          Do you have the Hungarian and German OBs?

                          JS
                          Give me some time to dig out the information in my book and document heap.
                          (You can send reminder email if I forget it within a week! :chair:

                          BTW, do you need the OOB in that day or the same month is enough? I need less time if it is enough...
                          a brain cell

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