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    What means the russian letters writed on this Pz IV?
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    "ЛЗЩ"

    Л=L
    З=Z
    Щ=Нmmm.... Щ=shch or sch

    It is only a set of letters here, they can mean everything.

    It can be first letters of a name.

    For Example, "Lev Zakharovich Shchukin" and so on.

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    • #3
      Even more interesting, would be what is the meaning of the five-pointed American star on the right front glacis plate of this Tiger tank?
      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MountainMan
        Even more interesting, would be what is the meaning of the five-pointed American star on the right front glacis plate of this Tiger tank?
        Or it can be a Soviet Red Star...
        a brain cell

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        • #5
          Originally posted by laszlo.nemedi
          Or it can be a Soviet Red Star...
          No, it's an american lend leased pzIV...
          “Die in peace my brothers, but die quietly, so that we hear nothing but the faintest echo of your suffering…”

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MountainMan
            Even more interesting, would be what is the meaning of the five-pointed American star on the right front glacis plate of this Tiger tank?
            A five-pointed star is the symbol of Red Army and of Soviet Army (and of modern Russian Army)

            If they had no red paint they could use another color.
            Last edited by Andrey; 05 May 05, 00:36.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Trigger Happy
              No, it's an american lend leased pzIV...
              a brain cell

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Andrey
                A five-pointed star is the symbol of Red Army (and of modern Russian Army)

                If they had no red paint they could use another color.
                Is it still symbol of the Russian Army? Interesting.
                a brain cell

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by laszlo.nemedi
                  Is it still symbol of the Russian Army? Interesting.
                  Yes. Russian Army has no other sign.

                  Modern Russian combat planes have red star symbols.

                  And Russian units have red banners like it was in the time of USSR.

                  Red stars and red banners are considered not symbols of Communism but the symbols of combat glory of the units who fought bravely for the Motherland and not for Communism.

                  Also the Russian soldiers and officers have a white-blue-red (small modern Russian national flag) chevron on the left hand. Sometimes they paint this Russian national flag on tanks, trucks and so on. Sometimes they use Russian national flag as a combat banner.
                  Last edited by Andrey; 04 May 05, 14:00.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Andrey
                    Yes. Russian Army has no other sign.

                    Modern Russian combat planes have red star symbols.

                    And Russian units have red banners like it was in the time of USSR.

                    Red stars and red banners are considered not symbols of Communism but the symbols of combat glory of the units who fought bravely for the Motherland and not for Communism.

                    Also the Russian soldiers and officers have a white-blue-red (small modern Russian national flag) chevron on the left hand. Sometimes they paint this Russian national flag on tanks, trucks and so on. Sometimes they use Russian national flag as a combat banner.
                    Red Star is considered here as a symbol of Communism, so it is forbidden. It would be interesting to see a meeting of Russian-Hungarian soldiers
                    a brain cell

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by laszlo.nemedi
                      Red Star is considered here as a symbol of Communism, so it is forbidden.
                      It is your problems - . To the point, a red star is on the top of Kremlin's Towers. A red star is placed on Russian Happy New Year Trees. The official Russian military newspaper is called "Red Star" like it was in the time of USSR. And so on. We don't suppose that it is related to Communism.

                      For the Russians Red Star is not the symbol of Communism. And star commonly is symbol of Russian troops, not only red one. Red stars are on Russian planes and helicopters, it is military symbol and I didn't hear about another famous symbol that can replace it.

                      It would be interesting to see a meeting of Russian-Hungarian soldiers
                      And how do you suppose view of modern Russian soldiers? It's not the same like in Western movies about James Bond.

                      Russian soldiers have no red stars on caps or helmets. The Russian field military caps contain green stars. Officers' service caps contain golden stars.
                      Last edited by Andrey; 04 May 05, 21:14.

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                      • #12
                        I asked about a Red Star symbol and about other symbols of Russian militaries one my work's colleague who is former captain of Russian Army (a tankman, a company commander) and who left Army 3 years ago. He confirmed all what I wrote...

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                        • #13
                          Even more interesting, would be what is the meaning of the five-pointed American star on the right front glacis plate of this Tiger tank?
                          How can it be an American star is there is a cyrillic "ЛЗЩ" marking on the hull?? It's clear this Tiger was captured by the Red Army.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by laszlo.nemedi
                            Red Star is considered here as a symbol of Communism, so it is forbidden. It would be interesting to see a meeting of Russian-Hungarian soldiers
                            In fact ,Red Star is still used as a symbol of Russia Army.

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                            • #15
                              Gentlemen, it's a Pz IV,...probably captured and it looks like it is about to crush the German grave markers. German soldiers buried in Russian soil,...not popular. Small wonder they destroyed the grave yards.
                              The Purist

                              Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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