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    Was the German War Effort in W2 Sabotaged By German Traitors
    To answer the above question will require several intensely researched books, which will be coming out soon. In the meantime, here is an example of a huge squabble that broke out on the Axis History Forum in 2014. Many of you will learn a lot from this debate, I know that I did. (code: ()=comments of leftists; {}=Tracker11 comments)

    Postby sandeepmukherjee196 » 06 Nov 2014, 14:32

    Many german military officers blamed Hitler for the cataclysmic defeat. They put him down as an incompetent supreme commander and a strategic moron. They blamed his attitude and his decisions..his behaviour and his idyosyncrasies.

    I hold my own view, based on an actual perusal of events chronologically, through the evolution of the 3rd reich. I feel that Hitler was brilliant as a strategist and as a leader of a Nation at war. We can demonstrate that some of the much vaunted general staff members were rigid, habit driven and unimaginative. Left to them, Germany would have lost out even before Munich. Did Beck ever support the panzer doctrine?

    The German army certainly would have got bogged down in france and belgium in 1940 if they had gone by the insipid Aufmarschanweisung #1 & 2 versions of Fall Gelb ( case yellow).. Halder's brain child... a kind of the once-before-failed- schlieffen plan in reverse.
    This may have led to a repeat of WW I 's entrenched warfare for 2 years at least. Wasnt it Hitler who supported manstein's brainchild Fall Sichelschnitt?

    In front of Moscow, after the failure of operation typhoon, the generals lost their nerve and wanted to run en masse. It was Hitler's 'intransigence' and directive # 39 to hold the hedgehog positions that helped the germans dig in their heels and stem the soviet offensive that threatened to get out of hand.

    The German Army Chief of the General Staff, Halder, and his ilk were responsible for constantly thwarting rommel's efforts in africa. {From 1938-1941, Halder and other traitorous German High Command and General Staff personnel blatantly, (in-person,) sneered at Hitler, screamed at Hitler, name-called Hitler and carried out other acts of disrespect that would have resulted in their immediate imprisonment and execution in most other nations of the world. Yet Hitler did not begin to respond in kind until the winter of 1941-42. In view of the incompetence and sabotage of these men, which Hitler refused to believe for years, is it any wonder that his hatred of them caused periodic cuss out sessions. He endured too much pressure from these b**tards.}

    At stalingrad did manstein really want 6th army to withdraw and thereby leave the south-central front wide open in december 1942? was it just hitler alone rigid in insisting on the victory or death stance at stalingrad?

    Again at Kursk was hitler an enthusiastic participant or was he a sheep taken to the slaughter by Manstein? ("everytime i think of this offensive my stomach turns over !" Hitler to Guderian, ref: David Downing: german Generals at War : 1940-45).

    Didnt Rommel predict immediate collapse in Italy in 1943? wasnt it the Hitler - Kesselring duo who saved the day? Whose fingerspitzengefuhl ( sixth sense) was that the allies would come in normandy in 1944? wasnt Hitler opposed on this by rommel and practically everyone else of consequence? Who sat on the abwehr scoop that the invasion is imminent, relayed to all HQs by midnight 5-6 June '44.. wasnt it the much venerated-after-the war speidel ( rommel's chief of staff at army group B)?

    Who replaced the tried and tested Gen. Gausse as his chief of staff, with the arch traitor Speidel before the invasion at normandy? what were the considerations? wasnt it Lucie .. Mrs Rommel..who fell out with gausse's wife and prevailed on Rommel to remove her hubby? Gawd ! Imagine!

    Was surrendering wholesale in 1944 a viable option before Hitler, knowing that the allies would go for nothing but unconditional surrender and then come in with the Morgenthau plan to destroy germany for ever? "make peace you fools" Rundstedt told Jodl.. but who was the fool here?

    Was Rundstedt clever or foolish to advocate defence at depth in france by foresaking beach-defences ( "we germans dont believe in the tired old maginot concept"), under an allied air monopoly where a battle of movement and manoeuvre was an impossibility?

    there are many many examples..there is a series of cause and effect equations, in the sordid tale of how relationships and trust broke down in the german high command. {And became acts of treason by a German Army traitor clique that hemorrhaged German war Secrets to national enemies and committed hundreds of acts of sabotage against the German Army in Russia (e.g. Logistics, plans, “mistakes of command,” murder, resupply, reinforcement) that caused German defeat in dozens of major battle which cost 750,000 German dead and a defeat that was the result of a monstrous military and espionage conspiracy by German traitors.}


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    Postby Cult Icon » 06 Nov 2014, 17:31
    I don't think Hitler was as incompetent as commonly thought, given Germany's odds after 1941. Any intelligent and capable leader would be completely overwhelmed. He was however, arrogant enough to put a lot of responsibility on his shoulders. From closer study of Hitler as commander, it is clear that he was actually a very bright person to be able to somewhat keep up with all these crises. He was however, not good enough to master them, but neither were the 'most brilliant' commanders.

    I think the key point of contention was not 'Hitler's incompetence' but were German generals really that competent? They used Hitler as a convenient scapegoat to cover their own failures. A lot of their claims, such as 'mobile defense' are only excuses that ignored their logistical reality and weaknesses in their force structure/capability. I think they were not that capable or brilliant as commanders; They could not adapt their forces to the transformation & improvement of the Red Army and the allies. Their early victories and subsequent 'durability' of the wehrmacht in the defense.., which were mostly the product of successful pre war doctrine and organization, tend to cover up the string of disasters and limited offensive impact after the spring of 1942. Essentially even their post war writings showed no path out of the strategic dilemma they were in after Barbarossa.


    Postby sandeepmukherjee196 » 06 Nov 2014, 19:39

    A lot is said about Hitler's arrogance and delusions of omnipotence, of the tendency to disregard "professional advice from experts"..of insensible and crazy last stand ego trips.. etc..

    But was it like this from the very beginning? or was this the outcome of incompetence, bad judgment and disloyalty amongst the "professional experts"? the following issues and sequence of events may pl be noted :
    [*] Hitler sacrificed the SA old hands at the behest of the army leadership.. he humoured the army brass big time at this stage ( '33-34).
    [*] Hitler didnt interfere with the army's processes, structures and systems till after the failure of operation typhoon ( moscow).. i.e, till the end of '41.
    [*] Inspite of Hitler's proper behaviour and conduct towards the army, the top brass started engaging in high treason and treachery from before the war started..Beck, Halder and co.. plotted to assassinate / imprison the german head of state in 1938.
    [*] Admiral canaris .. head of military intelligence..went over to the enemy early in the war. This is like the heads of OSS, NKVD, MI5 and MI6 going over to the germans!
    [*] Many of the top generals openly showed casteist disdain and cultural derision against their lawful Head Of State from the beginning.
    [*] The general's lost Hitler's confidence during the planning of the Fall Gelb ( first versions) before the summer '40 western offensive, tardy execution before moscow ( particularly Guderian's sector), defensive operations and morale building after the moscow failure .
    [*] The moscow episode convinced Hitler that his generals didnt have moral fibre and would give up easily. This made Hitler a last stand fanatic..taking extreme unreasonable stances later on till the end of the war.
    [*] The chronic timidity of people like halder and their lack of imagination made him disrespectful of the general staff at large. He mentally painted himself into a corner..relying on a small coterie of generals like rommel, model, schorner and some waffen SS leaders.
    [*] The political naivety of most of his generals made their advice on surrender and negotiations sound like puerile nonsense.
    [*] Even the best names amongst his generals were responsible for howlers and blunders galore. This made him lose confidence and the inclination to rely on professionals. Guderian never produced anything of value ( except temperamental outbursts) after france ( '40) and the first few months of barbarossa..he failed in front of moscow; his showed bad judgment about normandy...he was ineffectual as head of OKH later.
    [*]finally the july plot and the revelations about people in key positions like canaris broke the last threads. he simply gave up on the army.
    [*] People say he raved and ranted at the end about traitors.. but didnt the clique composed of speer, heinrici, busse and wenck finally betray him during the last days around berlin? didnt they conspire to leave berlin bereft of troops so that the top leadership fell easily to the soviets? {During the years of cooperation between Russia and Germany, a number of high ranking German officers became agents of the Soviet Union. After WW2 that controlled both the East German and West German armies., and NATO.}
    [*] Admiral canaris .. head of military intelligence..went over to the enemy early in the war. This is like the heads of OSS, NKVD, MI5 and MI6 going over to the germans!
    [*] People say he raved and ranted at the end about traitors.. but didnt the clique composed of speer, heinrici, busse and wenck finally betray him during the last days around berlin? didnt they conspire to leave berlin bereft of troops so that the top leadership fell easily to the soviets?
    • [*] Steel Boat Iron Hearts, Hans Goebeler,Casemate Publishers. He tells us about the impact of The Admiral's betrayal on the U Boat War.
    [*] Hitler's Spy Chief: The Wilhelm Canaris Betrayal: The Intelligence Campaign Against Adolf Hitler, Richard Bassett,Cassell. You can read the Kindle edition too available on the net..He has done research on the Abwehr's archives and documents. The saga of recorded betrayals of Canaris, is pretty comprehensive.
    [*] A source of a lot of the evidence quoted against Canaris, the the discovery of some of his diaries maintained at Abwehr HQ, by General Walter Buhle ( as quoted in : The Unseen War in Europe, Espionage and Conspiracy in the Second World War, John H. Waller,.
    [*] I have heard of another excellent book : Master Spy, Ian Goodhope Colvin, McGraw-Hill.
    [*]In the "Brandenburger Commandos", Franz Kurowski says that In 1943, Canaris met Commander George E Earle, The US Naval Attache in Istanbul with a secret deal. He later invited senior allied secret service officers, Donovan ( US) and Menzies ( UK)to Santander for secret liaisons in the summer of '43. The same is confirmed by The Unseen Hand: An Introduction to the Conspiratorial View of History (Google eBook),A. Ralph Epperson. If you are not into these conspiratorial views of history, you can refer to a book from the German Resistance point of view : German Resistance Against Hitler: The Search for Allies Abroad, 1938-1945, Klemens Von Klemperer, who quotes the eminent historian Peter Hoffmann on the same subject (the Istanbul meeting).

    2) You say that the notion of the treachery by Speer, Heinrici, Busse and Wenck in April '45 is "Nonsense" !! .. Please note that on April 28th, '45, GeneralFeldmarschall Keitel himself found Manteuffel's 3rd Panzer Army ( part of Heinrici's Army group, falling back from the Oder, going north and away from Berlin, against specific orders. Heinrici was himself present with Manteuffel. Subsequently Busse's 9th Army, upon his direction, fell back towards the Elbe and again gave Berlin the miss. And Wenck ordered 12th Army to link up with Busse south and south west of Berlin, instead of proceeding towards Berlin as ordered. Speer has himself confirmed his role in advising Heinrici, to leave Berlin undefended. General Weidling's 56th Panzer corps ( part of Busse's 9th army)had been ordered by Busse to take a route away from Berlin. weidling and Siegfried Knappe ( his operations chief) have described what exactly happened and how their orders were countermanded by the high command and hence they ended up in Berlin after all. If you desire I would provide you with quotes and specific sources on these too. {Much information regarding the Seelowe Heights Battle and the herding of the German 9th Army into the “Slaughter at Halbe” has been kept from researchers for around 70 years. However, there are a few signs of command sabotage embedded in the small amount of info on these battles. We are talking about the bitch goddess of all conspiracies here !}

    Postby ljadw » 01 Dec 2014, 12:18

    (Kurowski is a neo-nazi propagandist,who was claiming that the bombardment on Dresden resulted in 275000 dead: throw them under the bus with him .)

    (The meeting between Canaris,Donovann and Menzies was no betrayal : it was the duty of Canaris to look for possibilities for a separate peace,something that Ribbentrop also was doing.) {t is not the responsibility of a spy chief to give away national secret, make secret deals with national enemies and offer details of his nations plan, vulnerabilities military strength and many other give-aways to prove his bona fides as am agent for foreign powers that establish him as a traitor. His work with the traitorous Stauffenberg army officer clique of spies and sabotaeurs was because they saw themselves as agents of Germany’s enemies,. Ribbentrope did not turnover any secrets to Germany;s enemies . His own son served as a valiant and highly decorated officer of the Waffen SS (1st SS Panzer Division) on the Eastern Front.}


    Postby sandeepmukherjee196 » 06 Nov 2014, 19:39

    German Intelligence chief, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, long in contact with the Beck-Goerdeler group, spent years talking to British and Russian intelligence personnel and given them German secrets. Canaris, in 1943 also decided to make the same attempt through Navy Captain Paul Leverkuehn, an internationally-known lawyer and acquaintance of William J. Donovan, head of the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (Heinz Hoehne, Canaris, trans. J. Maxwell Brownjohn Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1979, pp. 482-83; Ritter, Goerdeler's Struggle; and von Papen, Memoirs, pp. 488-89, 499.).
    ..............
    According to U.S. Colonel Curtis B. Dall (who wrote FDR, My Exploited Father-in-Law), Governor Earle, years later, reminisced thus about the incident: ...one morning there was a knock on his (Earle's) hotel room door...and there stood...in civilian clothes...Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, head of the German Secret Service. The gist..was there were many sensible German people...feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued, saving that the unconditional surrender policy recently announced...the German generals could not swallow.... (A)n honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces...could be arranged. That the real enemy of western-civilization (Soviet Communism) could then be stopped. The German Army, if so directed, would move to the eastern front and stop the Communist Army's march into eastern Europe.
    Then followed a meeting with the German ambassador... von Papen, a devout Roman Catholic and strongly anti-Hitler in his feelings (Hamilton Fish, FDR: The Other Side of the Coin New York: Vantage Press, 1962, p. 238.)....

    As Dall relates it, Earle soon became convinced of the sincerity of Canaris and von Papen, and strongly persuaded of sinister hidden designs of the Soviet Government, including its objective to establish the USSR as the supreme power in Europe. Commander Earle immediately sent an urgent message to Washington via diplomatic pouch, requesting a prompt reply. A month later, Canaris phoned, as had been agreed, but Earle could only say "I am waiting for news, but have none today." Several months, and several follow-up messages, passed but still no reply. Presumably Earle had informed FDR that this peace probe had the full backing of "the Pope, Papal Secretary of State Maglione, Nuncio Roncali (the later Pope John XXIII), and Bishop Montini (the later Pope Paul VI." (Hoehne, Canaris, p. 484; and von Papen, Memoirs, p. 459.)

    According to von Papen's Memoirs (English translation) these peace probes were initiated in April. According to Heinz Hoehne (biographer of Canaris), Earle and Canaris were already face to face in January 1943 (Hoehne, Canaris, p. 483). It is not necessarily a contradiction, as Earle mentions (in the account to Dall, published in Fish's book) that he first met Canaris and then von Papen.
    In the Hoehne version, Canaris urges von Papen's friend Lersner ìto keep in touch with Earle at all costs," even after FDR ordered a halt to further negotiations with Canaris, apparently sometime in May. Yet, even after this order came, Lersner let Earle in on the details of the plan of Captain Georg von Boeslager to surround Hitler's headquarters in East Prussia with his 3,000-man cavalry detachment and capture/kill Hitler, Himmler and Bormann (Ibid, p. 484; and von Papen, Memoirs, pp. 498-99)."

    To pre-empt charges against the validity of the views expressed in this article, Please do note the valuable original references given by the author.

    Does anyone who has studied WWII from the German side, have any serious doubts about the fact that Admiral Canaris was compromised with the western allies? If the Head of German Military Intelligence, is compromised with the enemy then what do you expect to happen? What is the Abwehr's track record in Britain? How many of its agents got routinely apprehended on arrival at Britain? How many turned double? How many were executed ..Imagine they were the Admiral's own men he sold out...not some Nazi party hood or Gestapo hitman ! Examine each major German battle defeat for tell-tale signs of “human error” by highly trained generals asnd General Staff personnel who knew better, I will provide a detailed resume of “German traitor signs and cues” in my new book.

    You say that "the Abwehr collaborated with the Wehrmacht in these attacks " (Poland, France , Barbarossa). Well the military intelligence organisation of any country would do that in the normal course.. wont they? Canaris couldn't possibly openly NOT COllABORATE with the Wehrmacht. The entire Abwehr organisation was not on the side of the enemy! There were brilliant operatives and successful intelligence operations to the credit of the Abwehr at all stages. There were the likes of Major Hermann Giskes of "Operation Englandspiel" fame....

    Please remember that the Canaris - Oster clique was a personalised affair .. it wasn't Pan - Organisation in nature. And to pre-empt any talk of their oft given alibi, the Jewish extermination program or the war crimes in the east, please note that this clique started off even before Munich !
    The impact of these activities are actually incalculable from the military damage point of view. (sabotage and revelations to the Anmericans and Soviets cost many battle defeats and at least 750,000 German lives)

    Why did the traitor Halder, a prime collaborator of Canaris-Oster, produce such an insipid plan against France in 1940? Why did he stonewall Manstein's plan? Why was Manstein transferred out of the Western theatre to a sleepy posting in the East? (That was one of the many sabotages of the elitist German traitor clique in the center of the Wehrmacht High Command, the German General Staff and Germanys Intelligence Agency (the Abwehr) All of these traitors, several hundred elitist German army officers with covert ties to the USSR NKVD and international Zionism that declared war of Germany in the 1930s, before Munich.)

    I think the case against Canaris is pretty watertight.

    Sandeep



    Reply by Michael Kenny01 Dec 2014, 15:45
    http://www.culturewars.com/CultureWars/ ... crime.html
    (The 'Magazine' is a far-right anti-communist blinkered Catholic view of the world and the publisher has a history of being anti-semitic )

  • #2
    That was too long to read.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
      That was too long to read.
      I think this is the thread he was referring to:
      http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...?f=76&t=211217

      It looks like tracker11 just did a copy paste of the first page of that thread and destroyed the formatting that made it comprehensible.

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      • #4
        Comprehensible? That's a problem of reading comprehension.

        Comprehensible? That's a problem of reading comprehension. That reading problem is not shared by many members of this forum. A tutor might help?

        I improved the formatting. Many people will read that commentary and understand the import of it, God will sort out the rest.

        If anyone enjoyed the commentary that's good. If not, maybe they will like my next one better.

        Another minority exists here, those who worry over format while ignoring content.

        That will change when...

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        • #5
          Look mate...

          I can see that, obviously, we here aren't going to tell you anything you don't already know.

          But if you come here whitewashing the German Army, I can only say that failure is its own demonstration.

          They had their chance at dominating Europe, when France fell. They couldn't stick to their war aims, because that included toppling the soviets as well.

          And the soviets weren't easy beats, were they?

          They were already on a Total War footing, something that German intelligence ignored..
          Like all intelligence, there are times when it sees what it wishes to see. And the High Command of the Wehrmacht definately saw only what it wished to see about the resiliance of the soviet Union and the tenacity of russian and other peoples.

          Face it. they blew their chances because they bit off far more than they could possibly chew.
          They could have sat back when France fell and waged war with Britain for the next four years, without any serious hassles. But, in line with the theory that the surprise attack is always the best course, they over-extended themselves, and got a bloody mess as the result, locked in a death struggle where there could be only one winner.

          And God, as Napolean said, "Is on the side of the biggest battalions."

          They might have been able to stack the deck in their favour, but intelligence efforts failed to pick up exactly how quickly the Red Army could bounce back.
          shifting whole factories beyond the influence of the 'front' was another move that was not looked at.

          and treating all regional ethnic groups as "untermenshen" even as you try to recruit them to your "cause", is just plain idiocy.

          The results speak for themselves. by Operation Bagration, the Wehrmacht could barely defend Germany, let alone some damn fool ideological Crusade for europe.

          So lets put all of OUR cards on the table, now. Decisins like "Barbarossa" had nothing to do with "treachery". and neither did the ill advised Declaration of War on the United sates do anything to help.

          Backing the Italians with half measures, like failing to provide their ships with fuel, and then having rommel blame the Italians for nearly everything that went wrong with his own supply chain, has nothing to do with espionage or treachery.

          Drusus
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          • #6
            Back to the issue though...

            I think the best comment on the course of the war from one of the participants i have ever read anywhere was none other than Spike Milligan.


            A batch of German prisoners marched by. they get "The Treatment" from our fellows, stiff armed salutes, jeers mixed with rasberries.

            I couldn't credit it.

            Had we ordinary layabouts, beaten the formidable German Army?

            ROMMEL TELEGRAMMING HITLER

            Dear Adolf,

            Beaten ve haf been by zer ordinary layabouts.

            Signed.....Formidable German Army
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            • #7
              So I did not read Your Stupid Opinions or Threats

              Sooner or later your stupid lectures will effect your reputation, as they should. In the mean time your reputation is being protected and you are allowed to spout out your stupid pro-communist crap.

              The issue is you. You are a coward and a snively little creature who has aligned some equally deformed buddies to protect your rep while you sling as much crap as you like.
              I am no longer reading, your stupid childish idiocy.

              I will find a way.

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              • #8
                I wanted to say goodbye to you before your banning.
                Give my best souvenir to the manager of the kukus nest .
                That rug really tied the room together

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                • #9
                  Well that was quick.
                  Credo quia absurdum.


                  Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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                  • #10
                    I felt that it will be quick so i had to hurry up if i wanted to tell him all my love.
                    The more funny is that he wrote some interesting messages on my page ,but i am sure he took me for someone else,héhé..
                    That rug really tied the room together

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
                      I wanted to say goodbye to you before your banning.
                      Give my best souvenir to the manager of the kukus nest .
                      One of your better post

                      He was leaving nastye msg's all over the place. One very sick person.
                      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                      • #12
                        i would like to bring the moderator's attention to not only the conduct of the banned poster, but to a certain other poster mentioned in his PM messages to me...

                        I will give your rep another downward nudge. I am now examining a number of your comments to ascertain the most deserving of adjustment. This will continue until you adjust to the fact that many people are concerned with your intolerant behaviour. An apology would be nice.
                        You are pro-soviet. I am not. As for rep points, people unfairly attacked my rep and i responded with truth about their intellect.
                        however, i plan to follow rimmer's advicebecause I now have the response retaliation weapons against hate attacks. I feel no connection with WW2. But i dislike the Allies who sucked up to the greatest mass killer ever known, Stalin.
                        I am tired of fanatical lies about hitler andthe Germans. My relatives that fought in WW2, before they died, voiced total respect for the German Wehrmacht depicting it as fielding the best combat troops ever fielded in any war. they had great criticism for German traitors too, which they knew a lot about.
                        As a professional soldier, I agree. You German haters are losing. who do you think buys those millions of books praising the German military prowess?
                        you are still living in 1920 nd promoting soviet propaganda and you are a creature of the media lies. UR part of a minority, though.
                        "Times they are a changing..."

                        Rimmer, what have you got to say for yourself? Egging this person on, telling him that "many people are concerned with MY intolerant behaviour."

                        Has rimmer got nothing better to do with his time on the forum than to go from post to post red repping for what he considers to be THE issues of the day? While his uses people like this poor fool, whos obviously under some kind of impression that the German Army of WW2 was a lillywhite organisation, free of atrocity and illegal orders?

                        I would like the rep point that this fool, on advice from a poster who should know better, RESTORED.

                        I work damned hard for my points, and make the call for the following 'adjustments".

                        1/ New posters must have 100 posts up their sleeve before they can vote rep points, positive or negative.

                        2/ "Ignore" feature to be publically posted as a list on your home page.
                        3/ conduct like getting other, newer posters to do your dirty work for you resulting in instant dismissal.
                        4/ All neo-Nazis and supporters banned, including posters that egg them on.

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                        • #13
                          My postings on this site, I can assure you, are at the expense of my marriage as much as my time consumed.

                          My wife castigates me endlessly about time spent here, feeling that painting the house and other matters are far more important, while also not leaving me with any free time at all.

                          I sacrifice something of me personally to be here. My reputation is important to me, more so than being right or wrong. When im right, I get no comments. I know when i'm wrong because the caustic comments flow thick and fast, and thats OK. Thats how one LEARNS something NEW. I am honest enough about matters that I know little about to defer to those that do.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                            That was too long to read.
                            No donut breaks? WTF?
                            My worst jump story:
                            My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                            As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                            No lie.

                            ~
                            "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Drusus Nero View Post
                              i would like to bring the moderator's attention to not only the conduct of the banned poster, but to a certain other poster mentioned in his PM messages to me...






                              Rimmer, what have you got to say for yourself? Egging this person on, telling him that "many people are concerned with MY intolerant behaviour."

                              Has rimmer got nothing better to do with his time on the forum than to go from post to post red repping for joke issues? While his uses people like this poor fool, whos obviously under some kind of impression that the German Army of WW2 was a lillywhite organisation, free of atrocity and illegal orders?

                              I would like the rep point that this fool, on advice from a poster who should know better, RESTORED.

                              I work damned hard for my points, and make the call for the following 'adjustments".

                              1/ New posters must have 100 posts up their sleeve before they can vote rep points, positive or negative.

                              2/ "Ignore" feature to be publically posted as a list on your home page.
                              3/ conduct like getting other, newer posters to do your dirty work for your resulting in instant dismissal.
                              4/ All neo-Nazis and supporters banned, including posters that egg them on.

                              Drusus
                              DN you can ask the Mods to remove abusive comments and red dots. However I doubt his story. I know for a fact that if your neutral or in the in the red you can't give positive or negative rep. Also I know that there was no affection between the two. (Go to Rimmers home page and see tracker11 comments...)

                              tracker11 You a "five star general"? Bullshit. You are just a little **** determined to clear out any newbie who shows signs of disagreeing with your leftist swill pretending to be history. Bring it on moron.

                              22 Feb 16 12:14
                              tracker11

                              When ignoramuses are too stupid to present counter-evidence, they resort to name calling. That's you doofus!

                              In short I think you fell for a lie...

                              He did much the same to me for no good reason...

                              But if you do have a problem take it up with a Mod privately.
                              Last edited by Bwaha; 24 Feb 16, 18:50.
                              Credo quia absurdum.


                              Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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