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  • Gencallan
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    What was the deal with the Army Security Agency? They were disbanded, and have a wbe site but you had to be in the ASA to gain access.

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  • lirelou
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    R.N., I was at the MacDill AFB clinic a month ago and some old retiree had brought in his Basic Training Book from the mid-1950s, when the 9th Infantry Division was a Basic Training outfit. Anyway, they had a photo of 1st LT James Van Sickle, who was a BCT Company commander in the Division (30th Infantry, if memory serves). But as a 1LT he was wearing a Senior Parachutist Badge and a CIB. I believe the time was 1957, the year of the first Great 'RIF", which he was obviously immune from.

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  • R.N. Armstrong
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    Agree, James Van Sickle looked very Dutch in build and and complexion.

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  • lirelou
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    I only knew him as "Colonel", being a young captain and all. The Photo is definitely not the Van Sickle I knew. Built like a brawler, and he came across as one who could easily take you out back and whip your a** if he was displeased, which I never knew him to be.

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  • Chippymick
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    Originally posted by R.N. Armstrong View Post
    It was James P. Van Sickle. I have his signature on my first Officer Efficiency Report.
    I ask R.N.A because Vincent Van S. was my dads first boss in I Corps in 1963. This is him here.



    Dad is the grim looking bloke behind him. The other blokes in the funny hats are John Murphy on the left and Noel Delahunty on the right.

    Dad was the third or fourth Aust. Int. fellow to serve in Vietnam. (The third or fourth, depends on whether you count Monty Rodolfo, who was ex-Aust. Int., who was in-country at the time and was ostensibly working for the UK at the time.)

    Regards

    Mick

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  • R.N. Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Chippymick View Post
    It would be an amazing coincidence if the Van Sickle in question was Vincent Van Sickle.

    Which Van Sickle was it?

    Regards

    Mick
    It was James P. Van Sickle. I have his signature on my first Officer Efficiency Report.

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  • Chippymick
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    It would be an amazing coincidence if the Van Sickle in question was Vincent Van Sickle.

    Which Van Sickle was it?

    Regards

    Mick

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  • lirelou
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    Van Sickle had to be a great man to learn recon under. Since he ran an MACVSOG FOB prior to taking command of the 2/52nd. "Room Salon" was a room with ladies rented to entertain guests, usually government or business. Per my old boss, a retired O-6 named Jackson, their use was authorized at that time. Of course, for the US side, it was observe only.

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  • R.N. Armstrong
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    Originally posted by lirelou View Post
    Armstrong, Was Van Sickle the 2/52nd Commander when you were in it? I assume you worked in Korea when 'room salon' was still an allowed expense.
    Yes, he was commander; he had lost a finger down to the first joint on the Plains of Jar in Laos--we, junior officers, called him "Stubby". I had the great fortune to be the Scout Plt. Leader--not bad being an MI officer on an Infantry Detail.

    Not familiar with that term. I was in Yong San Summer 1980 to 1981.

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  • lirelou
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    Armstrong, Was Van Sickle the 2/52nd Commander when you were in it? I assume you worked in Korea when 'room salon' was still an allowed expense.

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  • R.N. Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Widow Maker View Post
    Deactivated and reactivated a few times but wound up in 1978 0r 1979 at Ft Bragg. After that it has remained the controlling intel headquarters for the Army's portion of the rapid deployment force. My service was the319th and 519th MI Bns and the TCAE Technical control and analysis element.
    In Vietnam it was primarily a HUMINT organization.

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  • Widow Maker
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    Originally posted by R.N. Armstrong View Post
    I was in 525 MI Group in 1971-72 when its headquarters was in Saigon. I served in the 4th Battalion in the delta where I ran an agent net with a principle agent, five action agents, and two support agents. I was under cover as a MACV officer on an advisory team with the 7th ARVN Division in Dong Tam firebase just outside of My Tho.

    You will have to refresh my memory where 525 went after Viet Nam.
    Deactivated and reactivated a few times but wound up in 1978 0r 1979 at Ft Bragg. After that it has remained the controlling intel headquarters for the Army's portion of the rapid deployment force. My service was the319th and 519th MI Bns and the TCAE Technical control and analysis element.

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  • R.N. Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Widow Maker View Post
    Were you in the 525th when the headquarters was blown up? I was serving in the unit during the 80's when they had a ceremony to return our battle streamers to us. As it was explained to me when a unit loses it's colors (in our case destroyed in the blast) they are not allowed to display their battle honors on the new colors for a certain number of years. I was told that the time period was even longer if the colors were captured.

    The unit became the 525th MI brigade about the time I was leaving.
    I was in 525 MI Group in 1971-72 when its headquarters was in Saigon. I served in the 4th Battalion in the delta where I ran an agent net with a principle agent, five action agents, and two support agents. I was under cover as a MACV officer on an advisory team with the 7th ARVN Division in Dong Tam firebase just outside of My Tho.

    You will have to refresh my memory where 525 went after Viet Nam.

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  • Widow Maker
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    Originally posted by R.N. Armstrong View Post
    Area Intel Officer, 525th MI Group, US Army Vietnam, Can tho - My Tho;
    Were you in the 525th when the headquarters was blown up? I was serving in the unit during the 80's when they had a ceremony to return our battle streamers to us. As it was explained to me when a unit loses it's colors (in our case destroyed in the blast) they are not allowed to display their battle honors on the new colors for a certain number of years. I was told that the time period was even longer if the colors were captured.

    The unit became the 525th MI brigade about the time I was leaving.

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  • R.N. Armstrong
    started a topic Intelligence Assignments

    Intelligence Assignments

    Outside of 1st Cav and HQDA staff assignments, I had the following intellligence assignments:

    Platoon Leader, Recon, 2/52 Inf Bn, 1st Armored Division, Ft. Hood, Tx;

    Area Intel Officer, 525th MI Group, US Army Vietnam, Can tho - My Tho;

    Warnings and Indications Officer, US Army Europe Headquarters, Heidelberg, Germany (The Yom Kippur War 1973 broke on my watch--tracked indicators four days prior to outbreak);

    Cdr, Special Operations Detachment which conducted covert and clandestine actions against a Soviet Diplomatic Group in West Germany;

    Cdr, Special Service Detachment, South Korea;

    G2 Operations Chief for III Corps, Ft. Hood Texas;

    Cdr, Corps Intelligence Tactical Operations Center, III Corps;

    Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence and Security, Defense Nuclear Agency, ALexandria, Virginia.
    Last edited by R.N. Armstrong; 27 Feb 10, 12:21.

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