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  • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Another tic-tac bouncing around in the cockpit ...
    UFO encounter? New footage shows U.S. Navy pilots' apparent sighting of alien craft near East Coast

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/uf...XKY?li=BBnbfcL
    Actually, your link and the Tic-tac video are from the same aircraft... looks like they were practicing with the IR.
    "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
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    "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
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    • Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
      Actually, your link and the Tic-tac video are from the same aircraft... looks like they were practicing with the IR.
      Interesting, since the "tic-tac" video of a while back was claimed to happen off the West Coast/San Diego and this one claims to be off the East Coast ...
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      “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz
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      • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
        Interesting, since the "tic-tac" video of a while back was claimed to happen off the West Coast/San Diego and this one claims to be off the East Coast ...
        That's because your sources either have no idea what they're doing or are deliberately trying to hide a mundane exercise.

        As for the two videos, if you look to the right side of the sensor overlays you'll see a 4 digit code... they are the same for both videos. These are laser PRF code set for laser guided munitions. PRF codes are assigned to a specific aircraft for specific sorties, and the chances of a match on any other aircraft is extremely, extremely unlikely.
        Also, the time also indicates that these two videos are roughly 20 minutes apart, the pilot was simply training with the ATFLIR on his plane.
        Last edited by Achtung Baby; 14 Mar 18, 20:21.
        "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
        Ernest Hemingway.

        "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
        Mark Twain.

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        • Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
          That's because your sources either have no idea what they're doing or are deliberately trying to hide a mundane exercise.

          As for the two videos, if you look to the right side of the sensor overlays you'll see a 4 digit code... they are the same for both videos. These are laser PRF code set for laser guided munitions. PRF codes are assigned to a specific aircraft for specific sorties, and the chances of a match on any other aircraft is extremely, extremely unlikely.
          Also, the time also indicates that these two videos are roughly 20 minutes apart, the pilot was simply training with the ATFLIR on his plane.
          So back around page 24 is when the posts of the West Coast sighting are presented and that one occurs in 2004 and the ATFLIR clip has a different PRF code, different altitude and different date;
          https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/u...ject-navy.html

          From the East coast one just posted;
          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/uf...XKY?li=BBnbfcL
          http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/newly...ry?id=53671546

          So the "sources" appear to be NYTimes, MSN, and ABC and would seem per your position these must be engaging in "fake news" ???

          BTW your claim that both episodes are showing the same video/ATFLIR clip would appear to be in error, or deliberate misrepresentation.
          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
          “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz
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          • I was referring to these two videos. (Image attached.)

            The one you claim is different is a non brainer, the change in the zoom makes it appear to move at rapid speed.
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            "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
            Ernest Hemingway.

            "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
            Mark Twain.

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            • Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
              I was referring to these two videos. (Image attached.)

              The one you claim is different is a non brainer, the change in the zoom makes it appear to move at rapid speed.
              Underscoring the value of speaking more clearly and providing some references, detail, etc.

              You were responding to a post of mine referencing two different times and locations and didn't make clear your comments were focused on only one incident/link.

              So you claim it's an "artifact" of equipment testing ...
              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
              “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz
              Present Current Events are the Future's History

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              • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                Underscoring the value of speaking more clearly and providing some references, detail, etc.

                You were responding to a post of mine referencing two different times and locations and didn't make clear your comments were focused on only one incident/link.

                So you claim it's an "artifact" of equipment testing ...
                So I buggered up, I can live with that.

                Either way, I've now proved two videos from two apparent places were actually from one aircraft. The tic-tac original video was traced back to German film students that specialised in creating science-fiction movies with lots of special effects (Vision Unlimited).

                "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                Ernest Hemingway.

                "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
                Mark Twain.

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                • FWIW, not all "UFO"s are ET/Alien spacecraft. The headlines of this first link are implying an assumption that may not apply ...
                  ‘I saw a UFO’ Buzz Aldrin PASSES lie detector test revealing truth about aliens
                  MOON walker Buzz Aldrin and three other astronauts have passed lie detector tests over claims they experienced alien encounters.
                  https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wei...rin-astronauts

                  Bob Lazar is one of the more interesting persons/personal accounts in UFOlogy, and as this points out, there could be another explanation for what he reported;
                  Mind-Games At Area 51? 30 Years Later
                  http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/0...0-years-later/

                  Title speaks for itself regarding what has been an enduring meme in our culture(s) ...
                  Taking the UFO Phenomenon Seriously — Religion, Narrative, Media and the Flying Saucer
                  https://medium.com/@DBMetcalfe/takin...r-204b3e678a40
                  TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                  “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz
                  Present Current Events are the Future's History

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                  • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                    FWIW, not all "UFO"s are ET/Alien spacecraft. The headlines of this first link are implying an assumption that may not apply ...
                    ‘I saw a UFO’ Buzz Aldrin PASSES lie detector test revealing truth about aliens
                    MOON walker Buzz Aldrin and three other astronauts have passed lie detector tests over claims they experienced alien encounters.
                    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wei...rin-astronauts

                    ...
                    https://www.9news.com.au/world/2018/...ay-to-the-moon
                    "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                    Ernest Hemingway.

                    "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
                    Mark Twain.

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                    • Aldrin has stated before, numerous times, that he never saw a UFO in space, or on the Moon. I've seen interviews he's done where he gets pretty irate about people claiming that he saw a UFO in space. What Aldrin has said, and I don't have a link to it, I have just read it in books on the space program, is that he saw a UFO in Europe while he was a fighter pilot. And, the UFO book writers have used that, misquoted him if you will, to claim he saw a UFO while in the space program.

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                      • Art Bell Dies on Friday the 13th

                        I suppose this is as good a place as any to put this. On Friday the 13th no less. Ole Art couldn't have planned it any better. One of the radio stations I used to work at had his show on for several years. I don't think I ever believed anything he said, outside of his name being Art. But the people that listened to him bought into everything he said...hook line and sinker.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainm...dcW?li=BBnb7Kz

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                        • Well I guess for an audience like his he had to pander for all their interests to keep it running.
                          "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                          Ernest Hemingway.

                          "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
                          Mark Twain.

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                          • We had a guy here take pot shots at a couple of NG Chinooks because he thought they were "black helicopters." When the LEOs showed up to cuff him he said something like "Well I heard Art Bell saying they was invading Belgian Commandos."

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                            • Art Bell, Heaven’s Gate, and Journalistic Integrity.

                              Following the Heaven’s Gate suicides, the public learned that news of a “companion UFO” trailing Comet Hale-Bopp — a rumor spread predominately by late-night talk radio host Art Bell — may well have contributed to cult members taking their lives in an attempt to “graduate,” as their Web site described it, to a “higher level” and leave Earth in a spacecraft. Bell will tell you he did nothing wrong. The full story reveals it’s not quite that simple.
                              Full article in link.
                              https://www.csicop.org/SI/show/art_b...stic_integrity
                              "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                              Ernest Hemingway.

                              "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
                              Mark Twain.

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                              • Whatever ... he was a trend setter in radio of the last few decades and did provide a venue for unconventional persons and topics, along with opportunity and medium to engage critical thinking, i.e. most of what made it to C2C was more entertainment than informational.
                                From the "source"
                                Art Bell Open Lines/ Friday the 13th

                                https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2018/04/13
                                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                                “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz
                                Present Current Events are the Future's History

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