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  • One of the early persons of note in the phenomenon;

    George Adamski: Hoaxer or Something Else?
    http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/1...someting-else/
    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
    “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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    • UFO conspiracy theorist who sent cryptic final text to mum 'vomited two litres of black fluid' before dying
      The family of UFO and government cover-up investigator Max Spiers, 39, believe he was murdered
      http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...o-sent-9467993
      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
      “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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      • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
        UFO conspiracy theorist who sent cryptic final text to mum 'vomited two litres of black fluid' before dying
        The family of UFO and government cover-up investigator Max Spiers, 39, believe he was murdered
        http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...o-sent-9467993
        The guy was a fruit loop, full of baseless claims and exaggerations... yes his family need closure but all this other nonsense only serves those who have little reality left within them.
        "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
        Ernest Hemingway.

        "We're all going to die, all of us; what a circus! That alone should make us love each other, but it doesn't. We are terrorised and flattened by trivialities."
        Bukowski

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        • Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
          The guy was a fruit loop, full of baseless claims and exaggerations... yes his family need closure but all this other nonsense only serves those who have little reality left within them.
          "Fruit loop" or not, the claim about 2 liters of "black fluid" vomited is intriguing, if true.;
          http://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbu...liquid-117480/

          Having recently put down two liters of clear fluid (the other way) in prep for a colonoscopy, and resultant ejection out the other end, this seems an amazing claim given limited capacity of the stomach.
          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
          “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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          • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
            "Fruit loop" or not, the claim about 2 liters of "black fluid" vomited is intriguing, if true.;
            http://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbu...liquid-117480/

            ...
            But alas, no proof of such claims.... and who the hell measures how much vomit comes out?

            Ufology has become a basket case, full of attention seekers trying to outdo each other with silly claims. I dunno what's worse, listening to these people speak or those who listen to it.
            "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
            Ernest Hemingway.

            "We're all going to die, all of us; what a circus! That alone should make us love each other, but it doesn't. We are terrorised and flattened by trivialities."
            Bukowski

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            • Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
              But alas, no proof of such claims.... and who the hell measures how much vomit comes out?

              Ufology has become a basket case, full of attention seekers trying to outdo each other with silly claims. I dunno what's worse, listening to these people speak or those who listen to it.
              I'll agree, who measures it coming out that well, unless it was into a portable container. The color is interesting, but yes, no "proof" per say.

              Since about 1947, nominal start of current "ufology", it has attracted a fair share of "attention seekers". The key is knowing and applying standard information filtering methods to determine the validity of what is presented, as well as the presenter. Given the case for strange stuff in the skies going about as far back as start of recorded history, some of us do find it worth the effort in trying to make out the identified from the unidentified.

              I understand the mindset of knee-jerk rejection as the implications would conflict with some people's belief systems, whether it is religious~mystical or religious 'science'.
              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
              “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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              • Groundbreaking UFO Video Just Released By Chilean Navy

                An exceptional nine-minute Navy video of a UFO displaying highly unusual behavior, studied by Chilean authorities for the last two years, is now being released to the public. The CEFAA - the Chilean government agency which investigates UFOs, or UAP (unidentified aerial phenomena), has been in charge of the investigation. Located within the DGAC, the equivalent of our FAA but under the jurisdiction of the Chilean Air Force, CEFAA has committees of military experts, technicians and academics from many disciplines. None of them have been able to explain the strange flying object captured by two experienced Navy officers from a helicopter.

                The Chilean government agency always makes its cases public when an investigation is complete, and acknowledges the existence of UAP when a case merits such a conclusion.

                General Ricardo Bermúdez, Director of CEFAA during the investigation, told me that “We do not know what it was, but we do know what it was not.” And “what it is not” comprises a long list of conventional explanations. Here is what happened:
                ...
                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b014e7c72ee56b
                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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                • The IR signature looks to be of a small twin engine plane, as to what is coming from behind it, dunno but I'm still searching for logical examples.

                  Possibly cloud seeding perhaps?
                  Last edited by Achtung Baby; 07 Jan 17, 16:43.
                  "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                  Ernest Hemingway.

                  "We're all going to die, all of us; what a circus! That alone should make us love each other, but it doesn't. We are terrorised and flattened by trivialities."
                  Bukowski

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                  • It's puff the Magic Dragon having a s#1t

                    Paul
                    ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
                    All human ills he can subdue,
                    Or with a bauble or medal
                    Can win mans heart for you;
                    And many a blessing know to stew
                    To make a megloamaniac bright;
                    Give honour to the dainty Corse,
                    The Pixie is a little shite.

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                    • An ongoing discussion on this video is in the link I provided below. Mick West makes a pretty good case for what he thinks it was.

                      https://www.metabunk.org/explained-c...t-la330.t8306/
                      "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                      Ernest Hemingway.

                      "We're all going to die, all of us; what a circus! That alone should make us love each other, but it doesn't. We are terrorised and flattened by trivialities."
                      Bukowski

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                      • Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
                        An ongoing discussion on this video is in the link I provided below. Mick West makes a pretty good case for what he thinks it was.

                        https://www.metabunk.org/explained-c...t-la330.t8306/
                        Allowing for the differences in distance as guestimated by the helio crew and reality of the airliner, this could explain why not on radar, and/or at location distance one would have looked, being as much as 20-25 miles further away. Visual configuration fits with M. West' explaination. Thanks for sluething.
                        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                        “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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                        • Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
                          An ongoing discussion on this video is in the link I provided below. Mick West makes a pretty good case for what he thinks it was.

                          https://www.metabunk.org/explained-c...t-la330.t8306/
                          Next day follow on, found where I found the original report. C2C can engage reality at times (maybe they were cued to this forum ) ... EXCERPT:

                          In a disappointing but not altogether surprising turn of events, an independent investigation into the recently released Chilean UFO footage which created headlines last week suggests that the unknown object was likely just an airplane.

                          The video and accompanying story generated considerable excitement because it emanated from an official Chilean government UFO investigation group who said that it could not determine what the anomaly was after a two year investigation.

                          However, a subsequent study of the footage and the circumstances by which it was filmed seemingly deciphered the identity of the 'UFO' rather easily.

                          The exhaustive and remarkably swift research conducted by Metabunk.org found a specific airliner which would have been flying above and away from the Chilean helicopter at the time of the incident, and thus, appeared as anomalous from that perspective.

                          The possibility that the 'UFO' was an airplane had previously been put forward by French investigators, but the theory was dismissed by the Chilean government due to the puzzling 'spray' seen coming from the object.

                          However, according to Metabunk's analysis, the 'mysterious' vapor dispersion from the 'UFO' was probably contrails coming from the airplane rather than any kind of deliberate spray, per se.

                          In response to these new findings, some UFO enthusiasts have expressed disbelief that the Chilean government would miss such an obvious answer to the mystery, but just such a scenario seems to have already occurred once with the group in the past.

                          As such, it is safe to say that the Chilean 'UFO' can almost certainly be classified as 'identified' rather than of unknown origin, unless some kind of new information comes to light.
                          ...
                          http://www.coasttocoastam.com/articl...tery-unravels/
                          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                          “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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                          • The Chilean team who sat on this data for two years and couldn't find anything conclusive suggests they really don't care or wanted to promote the area as a UFO hot spot... and the latter isn't far from the truth, http://www.rense.com/general26/ufozone.htm

                            It's like the Area 51 slides saga all over again, promote smoking gun evidence claiming years of testing and research yet it ends up with egg on it's face within a few days once released. Which proves the crowdsourced peer reviews can make huge inroads when solving esoteric cases. Ufology is dying a slow death due to their own ignorance and inability to accept outside help/interpretations.
                            "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                            Ernest Hemingway.

                            "We're all going to die, all of us; what a circus! That alone should make us love each other, but it doesn't. We are terrorised and flattened by trivialities."
                            Bukowski

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                            • Why These Scientists Fear Contact With Space Aliens

                              Why These Scientists Fear Contact With Space Aliens
                              EXCERPT:

                              The more we learn about the cosmos, the more it seems possible that we are not alone. The entire galaxy is teeming with worlds, and we're getting better at listening — so the question, "Is there anybody out there?" is one we may be able to answer soon.

                              But do we really want to know? If aliens are indeed out there, would they be friendly explorers, or destroyers of worlds? This is a serious question no longer confined to science fiction, because a growing group of astronomers has taken it upon themselves to do more than just listen. Some are advocating for a beacon swept across the galaxy, letting E.T. know we're home, to see if anyone comes calling. Others argue we would be wise to keep Earth to ourselves.

                              "There's a possibility that if we actively message, with the intention of getting the attention of an intelligent civilization, that the civilization we contact would not necessarily have our best interests in mind," says Lucianne Walkowicz, an astrophysicist at the Adler Planetarium in Chicago. "On the other hand, there might be great benefits. It could be something that ends life on Earth, and it might be something that accelerates the ability to live quality lives on Earth. We have no way of knowing."

                              Like many other astronomers, Walkowicz isn't convinced one way or the other — but she said the global scientific community needs to talk about it.
                              ...
                              The fact that there have been no signals yet does pose a conundrum. In a galaxy chock full of worlds, why isn't Earth crawling with alien visitors? The silence amid the presence of such plentiful planets is called the Fermi Paradox, named for the physicist Enrico Fermi, who first asked "Where is everybody?" in 1950.

                              In the decades since, astronomers have come up with possible explanations ranging from sociology to biological complexity. Aliens might be afraid of us, or consider us unworthy of attention, for instance. Or it may be that aliens communicate in ways that we can't comprehend, so we're just not hearing them. Or maybe aliens lack communication capability of any kind. Of course there's also the possibility that there are no aliens.
                              ...
                              http://www.nbcnews.com/mach/space/wh...aliens-n717271
                              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                              “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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                              • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                                Or maybe aliens lack communication capability of any kind.
                                This is actually a pretty strong possibility in my view, I recall Carl Sagan wrote the same thing in The Cosmic Connection with a line about how oblivious ants walking by a swimming pool are to the civilisation that created them.

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