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  • MarkV
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    Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
    One of the biggest problems of nuclear waste has been created by the Antis. That is, the technology to process spent fuel rods to extract fissionable material for further energy production such as Plutonium. It is the radioactive materials where the energy is being released in the form of heat. What waste is left can be sealed in concrete and placed into a seduction trench in the Pacific. Such waste would be quickly pulled down into the Earth's crust where it would remain buried miles underground for millions of years.

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    I assume you really meant subduction. Subduction unlike seduction is a slow process - 2 to 8 cm a year and takes place at the overlap of tectonic plates which unfortunately is also where many eruptions occur.

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  • SRV Ron
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    One of the biggest problems of nuclear waste has been created by the Antis. That is, the technology to process spent fuel rods to extract fissionable material for further energy production such as Plutonium. It is the radioactive materials where the energy is being released in the form of heat. What waste is left can be sealed in concrete and placed into a seduction trench in the Pacific. Such waste would be quickly pulled down into the Earth's crust where it would remain buried miles underground for millions of years.

    All other nuclear waste is nothing more then low level materials that have been exposed to radiation such as technicians gowns, lead storage containers, medical equipment exposed to Cobalt used in cancer treatment, expired medications, vomit on the sidewalk from someone that had just taken Iodine 131 to treat Thyroid Cancer, etc...

    And, they do remove nuclear reactors from decommissioned power plants for disposal. They did so in Michigan where the reactor core was moved by rail on a special heavy haul rail car to a site in Nevada. That train had armed guards and a Police Escort to keep the anti nuke idiots away from it. There was nothing special about that load as the reactors radiation level was only slightly above what is called background radiation. People around here have unventilated basements and crawl spaces with higher levels of radiation from Radon Gas then what standing next to that reactor had.

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  • Pirate-Drakk
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    One very large problem with highly radioactive nuclear waste is that it is nearly impossible to transport. By the time you put enough shielding on a truck to protect the driver and the public, the payload is tiny in comparison. This is why most spent fuel rods for nuclear reactors are stored on site indefinitely. They are already in a shielded area and the reactor core is never going to be moved, even after the reactor is shut down, so they just leave the trash pile inside the protective domes.

    One method of eliminating such waste is to bombard it with protons to induce a rapid decay. This requires a fairly large/pricey proton accelerator and the transportation problem still exists. Likewise, forcing a faster decay rate makes a HUGE amount of radiation in the short term. I know a physicist in China who is working on such a device. The idea is to produce enough energy in the forced decay process to power the particle accelerator.

    As accelerator technologies get smaller and cheaper, this method of induced decay will become more cost effective.



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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by MarkV View Post
    climate and weather are not the same thing
    Yet the weather ~ hurricane ~ is the result of climate, or more correctly a component of.

    Sort of like the individual cells are part of the whole body that is you.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
    I noticed a couple of members earlier today were suggesting we should dump our nuclear waste into the sun... perhaps it's time to get into the details in how difficult that idea really is.
    In the link you can either watch the video or read the transcript.
    https://www.universetoday.com/133317...-into-the-sun/
    On first glance, it appears to be the perfect solution, but a little practical thought reveals how dangerous such a thing could be to us if, for example, a launch failed or crashed. And that would be merely the tip of the iceberg.

    We currently lack the level of technology needed to guarantee a flawless launch every single time, or to provide an absolute fail-safe.

    And as massive as the Sun is, I wonder what effect a constant stream of nuclear waste might have on its surface activities, which have such a tremendous effect on our atmosphere and communications.

    One of the most interesting and frustrating things about we humans is our constant development of new technology without the concurrent development of ways to handle the results, or the deleterious consequences. We've had nuclear power for quite a while, now, and we still haven't solved the most basic problems surrounding it...but Boy Howdy can we blow up!

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  • MarkV
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    climate and weather are not the same thing

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by MarkV View Post
    Doesn't really matter - hurricane approaches Florida, President orders nuke dropped in it - goodbye Florida ( and passably Louisiana and parts of Texas.

    Like shooting a wart off your toe

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
    I noticed a couple of members earlier today were suggesting we should dump our nuclear waste into the sun... perhaps it's time to get into the details in how difficult that idea really is.
    In the link you can either watch the video or read the transcript.
    https://www.universetoday.com/133317...-into-the-sun/
    I thought they all meant "the Calgary Sun..."

    https://calgarysun.com/category/news
    Last edited by marktwain; 27 Aug 19, 12:02.

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  • MarkV
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    Doesn't really matter - hurricane approaches Florida, President orders nuke dropped in it - goodbye Florida ( and passably Louisiana and parts of Texas.

    Like shooting a wart off your toe

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Tuebor View Post

    Nah, they'd just mutate is all, and given it is Florida how would we know the difference?
    Especially if we sent them all to California!

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  • Tuebor
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    Originally posted by Herman Hum View Post
    And just one Challenger-level accident and you can kiss human habitation of Florida good-bye.
    Nah, they'd just mutate is all, and given it is Florida how would we know the difference?

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  • Herman Hum
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    And just one Challenger-level accident and you can kiss human habitation of Florida good-bye.

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  • Achtung Baby
    started a topic Dumping nuclear waste into the sun.

    Dumping nuclear waste into the sun.

    I noticed a couple of members earlier today were suggesting we should dump our nuclear waste into the sun... perhaps it's time to get into the details in how difficult that idea really is.
    In the link you can either watch the video or read the transcript.
    https://www.universetoday.com/133317...-into-the-sun/

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