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  • Nine planets after all?

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/...n-solar-system
    Rather interesting. Seems like it might be for real.
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    Nine planets after all?

    Finding it seems to be the problem
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35365323
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    • #3
      The problem with that is there currently isn't enough data to be sure. Brown and Batygin only looked at 6 Kuiper Belt objects before drawing their conclusions. There are literally tens of thousands of such objects in existence and finding only one that contradicts this model has the potential to singlehandly destroy their hypothesis.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by BobTheBarbarian View Post
        The problem with that is there currently isn't enough data to be sure. Brown and Batygin only looked at 6 Kuiper Belt objects before drawing their conclusions. There are literally tens of thousands of such objects in existence and finding only one that contradicts this model has the potential to singlehandly destroy their hypothesis.
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        • #5
          There have always been nine planets. Not all of us are in constant thrall to political correctness.

          This may raise the total to ten if it proves out.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            There have always been nine planets. Not all of us are in constant thrall to political correctness.

            This may raise the total to ten if it proves out.
            Just how was the reclassification of Pluto an act of political correctness? please explain.
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            • #7
              For additional reference, I posted this about 25 hours ago in my Geminga Scenario thread;

              Nibiru?

              New evidence suggests a ninth planet lurking at the edge of the solar system

              Astronomers at the California Institute of Technology announced Wednesday that they have found new evidence of a giant icy planet lurking in the darkness of our solar system far beyond the orbit of Pluto. They are calling it "Planet Nine."
              Their paper, published in the Astronomical Journal, describes the planet as about five to 10 times as massive as the Earth. But the authors, astronomers Michael Brown and Konstantin Batygin, have not observed the planet directly.
              Instead, they have inferred its existence from the motion of recently discovered dwarf planets and other small objects in the outer solar system. Those smaller bodies have orbits that appear to be influenced by the gravity of a hidden planet a "massive perturber." The astronomers suggest it might have been flung into deep space long ago by the gravitational force of Jupiter or Saturn.
              Telescopes on at least two continents are searching for the object, which on average is 20 times farther away than the eighth planet, Neptune. If "Planet Nine" exists, it's big. Its estimated mass would make it about two to four times the diameter of the Earth, distinguishing it as the fifth-largest planet after Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. But at such extreme distances, it would reflect so little sunlight that it could evade even the most powerful telescopes.
              ...
              http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techno...NpO?li=BBnb7Kz

              Additional article;
              http://time.com/4184942/planet-9-new...-solar-system/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                Supposedly "found" by gravitational inference, it's getting the visual identification that looks to be the challenge.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  There have always been nine planets. Not all of us are in constant thrall to political correctness.

                  This may raise the total to ten if it proves out.
                  You do realise some moons are bigger than Pluto.
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                  • #10
                    If it does exist, we are going to need a name of an appropriate Roman (Greek) God. Janus?

                    I would have said Orcus or Demogorgan could have been suitable, as both associated with the underworld, but Orcus is already taken, and both are DnD Demons .

                    Given that the Greek/Roman gods of the underworld were Chthonic, perhaps there is another more obvious name for such a hidden planet?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                      Supposedly "found" by gravitational inference,
                      That was how Pluto was inferred but positioning is vague this way so a visual sighting is needed. If it does not have a particularly reflective surface at that distance from the Sun it will be incredibly faint and difficult to detect
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                      • #12
                        Well then, the science is settled. Nine planets it is!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          Well then, the science is settled. Nine planets it is!
                          So far.
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                          • #14
                            Until merged, another thread on this and another article for reference;
                            http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=166880
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
                              If it does exist, we are going to need a name of an appropriate Roman (Greek) God. Janus?

                              I would have said Orcus or Demogorgan could have been suitable, as both associated with the underworld, but Orcus is already taken, and both are DnD Demons .

                              Given that the Greek/Roman gods of the underworld were Chthonic, perhaps there is another more obvious name for such a hidden planet?
                              How about Furrina? one of the 12 core Roman gods whose origins were so distant that even the Romans had lost sight of what she stood for.
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