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  • Originally posted by Pirate-Drakk View Post
    The data comes from NOAA.
    http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/...urricanes.html

    Here's a global storm plot which indicates we are at a 45 year low in global storms. Why am I not surprised?




    From:
    https://www.thegwpf.com/5-hurricane-...nt-you-to-see/

    If people would actually do fact checks instead of spreading rumors, we would all be better informed, but that wouldn't fit the agenda of "Climate Terror".
    Frequency is not the problem. Intensity is the problem.
    How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic: http://grist.org/series/skeptics/
    Global Warming & Climate Change Myths: https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

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    • Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
      Frequency is not the problem. Intensity is the problem.
      Yet both intensity and frequency are on decline over the past 30-40 years as shown here.

      Can't even read and understand a basic chart of data, can you ... ???
      Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
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      • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
        Yet both intensity and frequency are on decline over the past 30-40 years as shown here.

        Can't even read and understand a basic chart of data, can you ... ???
        https://science.howstuffworks.com/na...rricanes11.htm
        How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic: http://grist.org/series/skeptics/
        Global Warming & Climate Change Myths: https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

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        • Nice link Nick!


          Thanks for making my point. The two worst storms in terms of death toll were in 1900 and 1780. Considering the fact that the population density was much lower back then, those storms must have been immense.
          Battles are dangerous affairs... Wang Hsi

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          • Originally posted by Pirate-Drakk View Post
            Nice link Nick!


            Thanks for making my point. The two worst storms in terms of death toll were in 1900 and 1780. Considering the fact that the population density was much lower back then, those storms must have been immense.


            Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
            Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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            • And from Nick's site this related article...

              https://science.howstuffworks.com/na...increasing.htm

              They basically say the jury's out on hurricane intensity. I for one, don't buy anything the IPCC has to say on climate change or Gorebal Warming. They have a track record that is nearly 100% wrong. A group of psychics and palm readers could give you better predictions than the IPCC.

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              • Nothing embarrasses the IPPC "scientists"?
                We hunt the hunters

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                • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                  Nothing embarrasses the IPPC "scientists"?
                  No, there is too much money on the table.
                  "Why is the Rum gone?"

                  -Captain Jack

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                  • How Do Aliens Solve Climate Change?

                    Scientists recently modeled a range of interactions between energy-intensive civilizations and their planets. The results were sobering.
                    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...change/561479/

                    Perhaps to be expected from a Left leaning publication. Amazing how this modern equivalent of "flat Earth" keeps getting spun in odd directions.
                    Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                    Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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                    • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                      How Do Aliens Solve Climate Change?
                      Basically the problem is too many people. The price of civilizations success.

                      If we keep breeding like vermin, we will all die when all the land and resources are used up.

                      War, famine, and death on a grand scale. Who needs birth control when we can breed indiscriminately?
                      Battles are dangerous affairs... Wang Hsi

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                      • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                        How Do Aliens Solve Climate Change?

                        Scientists recently modeled a range of interactions between energy-intensive civilizations and their planets. The results were sobering.
                        https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...change/561479/

                        Perhaps to be expected from a Left leaning publication. Amazing how this modern equivalent of "flat Earth" keeps getting spun in odd directions.
                        OR:

                        Climate Change Killed the Aliens, and It Will Probably Kill Us Too, New Simulation Suggests
                        By Brandon Specktor, Senior Writer | June 6, 2018 07:18am ET
                        https://www.livescience.com/62750-cl...er-island.html

                        Last edited by G David Bock; 10 Jun 18, 15:50.
                        Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                        Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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                        • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                          OR:

                          Climate Change Killed the Aliens, and It Will Probably Kill Us Too, New Simulation Suggests
                          By Brandon Specktor, Senior Writer | June 6, 2018 07:18am ET
                          https://www.livescience.com/62750-cl...er-island.html

                          I read this article... This guy's an idiot. He discusses Easter Island and how the depletion of resources caused the collapse of that civilization, then somehow turns that into climate change. It wasn't a changing climate but the overpopulation and lack of resources that caused Easter Island to fail. The Maya are much the same, although there is some evidence that a drought period also had an effect. The same goes for the Anasazi of the US Southwest.

                          But, none of these early civilizations had much in the way of ability to recognize and deal with the changes they were facing. For instance, today we could be producing far more energy than we are if we'd gone down the nuclear path wholeheartedly. That massive amount more energy could have led to other changes such as desalination being cost effective, as one example.

                          So, a big part of the problem is when you model this stuff in only one way rather than take a diverse approach to the issue.

                          For example, what if the Easter Island people had practiced human sacrifice and used that (unknowingly) to control population growth and keep the population manageable for the resources available?

                          If anything, drought and desertification has had a far greater impact on most ancient civilizations than a couple of degrees change in the planet's temperature. I'd further suggest that a major asteroid strike, or mass vulcanization would have more impact than climate change does on our survival.

                          Then there's the unknowns of other potential alien civilizations. What if Mars were more Earth sized and had a large moon or moons? That is, it is a habitable, if cooler, Earth. All of a sudden there's an impetus to go into space when one or both worlds discover a way to do that. What if both have intelligent life on them that is different, even possibly radically so? Same thing. Climate won't drive that situation. The writer of the above article is an idiot.

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                          • Another possible "idiot" writer, so presented more for "balance" to illustrate the extremes that pro-ACC/AGW propagandists will go to;

                            What happened last time it was as warm as it’s going to get later this century?
                            https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...ing-something/
                            Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                            Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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                            • Arctic Ocean almost totally ice-covered – Map

                              n the 26th of June! Where’s that (so-called) global warming?

                              Look at this map.
                              • Purple signifies sea-ice thickness of approximately ˝ to 1˝ meters (20 inches to 5 ft).
                              • Blue or green signifies 1˝ to 3 meters ( 5 ft to 10 ft) of ice.
                              • Yellow or orange signifies 3 to 4 meters (10 ft to 13 ft) of ice.
                              • Red signifies 4 to 5 meters (13 ft to 16 ft) of ice.
                              • White signifies zero thickness of ice.

                              I don’t see much open water. Do you?
                              ...
                              https://www.iceagenow.info/arctic-oc...e-covered-map/
                              Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                              Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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