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  • Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
    And yet you use Tard as in Retard in your abusive language.
    Used to be a few decades back they made cars the average guy could give a tune-up to. Part of the process involved setting the timing, either advance it or RETARD it. The word has more than one meaning/connotation ...
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    • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
      Used to be a few decades back they made cars the average guy could give a tune-up to. Part of the process involved setting the timing, either advance it or RETARD it. The word has more than one meaning/connotation ...
      The Docs use of Retard is totally obvious.

      When he states Libtard, the definition is clear, despite his stated opinion.

      Libtard means Liberal Retard. I'm sure some Republican's don't mind this definition. Normal Republicans are not happy with a variation of Retard as an insult, albeit a variation of liberal as an insult is fine..

      The fact he doesn't like Liberals is clear. Anyone not Tea Party, including most Republicans, seem to be fair game as well.

      The fact that the AAPG had to change their stance, due to their own membership, speaks volumes.
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      • Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
        While you might state you are not calling an opposite position to yours a Retard, anyone with a tiny bit of intelligence will believe when you state Greent*rd you mean Green Retard.


        Likewise, when you call someone a Libtard, it appears crystal clear you mean Liberal Retard. Everyone who sees that word understands that. Unless their IQ is low of course.


        No it does not. The AAPG was anti AGW. It was in their best interests to be so. The fact that enough of their own membership forced a change of opinion reveals that your opinion is more than suspect.

        It also means that the AAPG membership is basically a Libtard for forcing the AAPG to change its POV.

        Your language proves that you appear to care less about the science than opinion.

        Your Language is very Nazi. Really.
        You need to change to a less offensive stance.
        Just because you are a minority does not mean you are wrong.

        I seem to remember some approx c19th amateur fossil enthusiast stating that the earth crust must have moved at some point, because fossils were often in the wrong place. We now know the reason was due to tectonic plates. He was derided at the time. Mainstream opinion was wrong. Scientific opinion was wrong.

        You might be right. Your language means you will not be bothered to be heard by any respectable scientist. Nor will you be heard by any impartial bystander.
        Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
        Your idiotic delusions aren't my poroblem... Alpha Mike Foxtrot.
        Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
        And yet you use Tard as in Retard in your abusive language.
        Cease and desist. If you wish to continue this banter, do it through PM's, not in this thread.

        Last warning. This thread will be closed if this continues.
        If you can't set a good example, be a glaring warning.

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        • Originally posted by Freightshaker View Post
          Cease and desist. If you wish to continue this banter, do it through PM's, not in this thread.

          Last warning. This thread will be closed if this continues.
          Wrong thread...

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          • Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
            That occurred this afternoon and is being dealt with. That thread is also now locked.
            If you can't set a good example, be a glaring warning.

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            • Originally posted by Freightshaker View Post
              That occurred this afternoon and is being dealt with. That thread is also now locked.
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              • The bigger question, however, is this:

                Are people who constantly rant about global warming the real hoax?
                Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  The bigger question, however, is this:

                  Are people who constantly rant about global warming the real hoax?
                  Those whom constantly rant that it's largely human caused, anthropogenic, ACC/AGW, would seem to be engaging in fraud, or ignorance, or both. Could maybe call that "a hoax".
                  TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
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                  Present Current Events are the Future's History

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                  • Well guys, while parts of the States and Australia are beginning to experience longer and hotter drought seasons, it appears that 'we' in the UK are beginning to settle to cooler drier summers, largely because the North Atlantic waters are cooling.

                    The 'worry' here in the UK is that if the North Atlantic cools enough to radically affect the Gulf Stream flow that 'we' could well be in for a mini-Ice Age here with all the unwelcome consequences. {Mentioned in yesterday's news.]

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                    • Originally posted by Wooden Wonder View Post
                      Well guys, while parts of the States and Australia are beginning to experience longer and hotter drought seasons, it appears that 'we' in the UK are beginning to settle to cooler drier summers, largely because the North Atlantic waters are cooling.

                      The 'worry' here in the UK is that if the North Atlantic cools enough to radically affect the Gulf Stream flow that 'we' could well be in for a mini-Ice Age here with all the unwelcome consequences. {Mentioned in yesterday's news.]
                      Since the very beginning of the debate on AGW I have pointed out that short term variations in climate on the regional level remain the biggest threat to human welfare. Even if it is real AGW represents something that can be planned for despite the supposed rapid rate of change. As it is turning out AGW does not foster erratic weather patterns as supposed by idiots like Al Gore that point is more relevant than ever.

                      It really is a common sense issue not a scientific one in my opinion as climate stability is what has always been the problem and that doesn't change if you reduce co2 emissions.
                      We hunt the hunters

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                      • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                        Since the very beginning of the debate on AGW I have pointed out that short term variations in climate on the regional level remain the biggest threat to human welfare. Even if it is real AGW represents something that can be planned for despite the supposed rapid rate of change. As it is turning out AGW does not foster erratic weather patterns as supposed by idiots like Al Gore that point is more relevant than ever.

                        It really is a common sense issue not a scientific one in my opinion as climate stability is what has always been the problem and that doesn't change if you reduce co2 emissions.

                        My personal concerns about the current situation is down to the weather's natural cycles now being joined by populous Industrial Man. Human beings are not very good at joint global action that includes foresight, general agreement, and an acceptance of having perhaps to do things in either moderation or in a more costly way.

                        It is future generations that may reap a bitter harvest, not so much our own, I fear.

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                        • Originally posted by Wooden Wonder View Post
                          Well guys, while parts of the States and Australia are beginning to experience longer and hotter drought seasons, it appears that 'we' in the UK are beginning to settle to cooler drier summers, largely because the North Atlantic waters are cooling.

                          The 'worry' here in the UK is that if the North Atlantic cools enough to radically affect the Gulf Stream flow that 'we' could well be in for a mini-Ice Age here with all the unwelcome consequences. {Mentioned in yesterday's news.]
                          With any luck, all of the anthropogenic CO2 will make the next Little Ice Age at least a little warmer than the last one...
                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          There.is no "myth" about the Little Ice Age...
                          The Late Holocene climate has been characterized by millennial scale cycle with a period of ~1,000 years and amplitude of ~0.5 °C.



                          Figures 7 & 8. Both Moberg and Ljungqvist clearly demonstrate the millennial scale climate cycle.


                          These cycles even have names…


                          Figure 9. Ljungqvist with climatic period nomenclature.


                          These cycles have been long recognized by Quaternary geologists…


                          Figure 10. The millennial scale climate cycle can clearly be traced back to the end of the Holocene Climatic Optimum and the onset of the Neoglaciation.


                          Fourier analysis of the GISP2 ice core clearly demonstrates that the millennial scale climate cycle is the dominant signal in the Holocene (Davis & Bohling, 2001). It is pervasive throughout the Holocene (Bond et al., 1997).


                          Figure 11. The Holocene climate has been dominated by a millennial scale climate cycle.


                          The industrial era climate has not changed in any manner inconsistent with the well-established natural millennial scale cycle. Assuming that the ice core CO2 is reliable, the modern rise in CO2 has had little, if any effect on climate…


                          Figure 12. Why would CO2 suddenly start driving climate change in the 19th century?



                          The literature is filled with evidence of the LIA's impacts on civilization.

                          My primary source for the bolded passage is...

                          The onset of the next Little Ice Age should occur anytime between now and 2100.
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                          • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                            Since the very beginning of the debate on AGW I have pointed out that short term variations in climate on the regional level remain the biggest threat to human welfare. Even if it is real AGW represents something that can be planned for despite the supposed rapid rate of change. As it is turning out AGW does not foster erratic weather patterns as supposed by idiots like Al Gore that point is more relevant than ever.

                            It really is a common sense issue not a scientific one in my opinion as climate stability is what has always been the problem and that doesn't change if you reduce co2 emissions.
                            It might change... it just might not change for the better.

                            The problem is that there are no unique solutions in Earth Science (Non-uniqueness Principle).
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                            • Originally posted by Wooden Wonder View Post
                              My personal concerns about the current situation is down to the weather's natural cycles now being joined by populous Industrial Man. Human beings are not very good at joint global action that includes foresight, general agreement, and an acceptance of having perhaps to do things in either moderation or in a more costly way.

                              It is future generations that may reap a bitter harvest, not so much our own, I fear.
                              Man's current net effect on climate is to make the average surface temperature a little bit warmer than it otherwise would be.

                              There's no way to know if this is good, bad or indifferent because there is no way to know what the "otherwise would be" is. While there are clear cyclical patterns in the paleoclimatological record, they cannot be measured with sufficient resolution for direct comparison with the modern instrumental record. Furthermore, Earth processes are highly stochastic... The same set of conditions will always yield somewhat different results (non-uniqueness).

                              The only logical course of action, is to adapt to climate change as it occurs.
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                              • Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                                Man's current net effect on climate is to make the average surface temperature a little bit warmer than it otherwise would be.

                                There's no way to know if this is good, bad or indifferent because there is no way to know what the "otherwise would be" is. While there are clear cyclical patterns in the paleoclimatological record, they cannot be measured with sufficient resolution for direct comparison with the modern instrumental record. Furthermore, Earth processes are highly stochastic... The same set of conditions will always yield somewhat different results (non-uniqueness).

                                The only logical course of action, is to adapt to climate change as it occurs.
                                We should at least consider engineering the climate, I'm not suggesting we start some massive international campaign just consider the options.
                                We hunt the hunters

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