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    Ten Common Science Myths;
    http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...hp&form=MSNrll

    10 Sci-Fi Predictions that came true
    http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...cmsn%257c%257c

    10 Historical Mysteries
    http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...cmsn%257c%257c

    Just some starter material
    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
    “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

  • #2
    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Ten Common Science Myths;
    http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...hp&form=MSNrll

    10 Sci-Fi Predictions that came true
    http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...cmsn%257c%257c

    10 Historical Mysteries
    http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...cmsn%257c%257c

    Just some starter material
    Since the presenters got it all wrong, what's the point? This is worse than Letterman.

    Astronauts have repeatedly stated that they have seen the Great Wall from space, and have shown pictures of it as they see it.

    The brightest star in the heavens depends entirely on the season. Usually, it's Venus.


    Etc., etc., etc.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Since the presenters got it all wrong, what's the point? This is worse than Letterman.

      Astronauts have repeatedly stated that they have seen the Great Wall from space, and have shown pictures of it as they see it.

      The brightest star in the heavens depends entirely on the season. Usually, it's Venus.


      Etc., etc., etc.
      Part of the point is to show what gets fobbed off on the public by supposed "news" sources. And how it's all in how one words and presents such.

      Case of the Great Wall of China, from Low Earth Orbit (LEO) is one thing, from say the Moon or Mars as view point another. Are we talking with naked human eye, or using optical enhancing devices (telescopes)?

      Venus happens to be a planet, not a star, and should have specified
      night time sky to remove the Sun as a contender. Most astronomy texts using magnitude would put Sirius as brightest "star".
      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
      “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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      • #4
        Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
        Part of the point is to show what gets fobbed off on the public by supposed "news" sources. And how it's all in how one words and presents such.

        Case of the Great Wall of China, from Low Earth Orbit (LEO) is one thing, from say the Moon or Mars as view point another. Are we talking with naked human eye, or using optical enhancing devices (telescopes)?

        Venus happens to be a planet, not a star, and should have specified
        night time sky to remove the Sun as a contender. Most astronomy texts using magnitude would put Sirius as brightest "star".
        And what gets "fobbed off" by forum members as alleged science, such as finding the DNA of Bigfoot?

        Who specifically has looked for the Great Wall from either the surface of the Moon or Mars? Reality check...

        The astronauts saw it from their vehicles with the naked eye. And filmed it with an ordinary camera. The film has been shown many times. Try watching the NASA channel.

        Despite it's status as a planet, Venus is referred to as a star constantly because of it's brightness and constancy in our heavens. Perhaps you should have been more specific, and been equally specific about the viewing location. What is brightest where you live is not going to brightest in my sky, especially since I live at altitude in an area without light pollution.

        We agree on one thing - I think - "science" has become something of a joke in modern times, for which we can blame scientists for constantly doing the Grant Money Hustle instead of concentrating on producing valid work.

        And we can blame people who produce "Top Ten" lists.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

          We agree on one thing - I think - "science" has become something of a joke in modern times, for which we can blame scientists for constantly doing the Grant Money Hustle instead of concentrating on producing valid work.
          Yes, we can agree on that much, at least.
          And it's political as well, which means that it will get a lot worse before it can possibly get any better.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
            Yes, we can agree on that much, at least.
            And it's political as well, which means that it will get a lot worse before it can possibly get any better.
            Of course.
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              Another "Tens of ...", this one titles itself "... Civilizations You Never Heard Of", but with the History focus of many here, likely have heard of most;
              http://entertainment.msn.com/videopr...d-09da598fc1c2
              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
              “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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              • #8
                Top 10 'Star Trek' Technologies that Actually Came True

                http://www.howstuffworks.com/10-star...ies.htm#page=1
                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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                • #9
                  Actually I found the Dyatlov Pass Incident interesting. Hadn't heard of it before. The Indus Valley disappearance is one that's kept me wondering. Especially the ruins of Mohenjo-daro. Irradiated human remains in an ancient city? Always grabs my curiosity.
                  BoRG
                  "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                  • #10
                    Another take/list here, of "mysteries";
                    http://video.us.msn.com/videos/watch...om=en-us_msnhp
                    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                    “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      And what gets "fobbed off" by forum members as alleged science, such as finding the DNA of Bigfoot?

                      Who specifically has looked for the Great Wall from either the surface of the Moon or Mars? Reality check...

                      The astronauts saw it from their vehicles with the naked eye. And filmed it with an ordinary camera. The film has been shown many times. Try watching the NASA channel.

                      And we can blame people who produce "Top Ten" lists.
                      Here's what Nasa had to say:

                      China's Wall Less Great in View from Space

                      05.09.05

                      It has become a space-based myth. The Great Wall of China, frequently billed as the only man-made object visible from space, generally isn't, at least to the unaided eye in low Earth orbit. It certainly isn't visible from the Moon.

                      http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/wor...reat_wall.html
                      BoRG
                      "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                      • #12
                        Don't forget "evolution"!
                        Hyperwar: World War II on the World Wide Web
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OpanaPointer View Post
                          Don't forget "evolution"!
                          What about it?
                          BoRG
                          "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Arthwys View Post
                            What about it?
                            Oh, come on, it's just a theory.
                            Hyperwar: World War II on the World Wide Web
                            Hyperwar, Whats New
                            World War II Resources
                            The best place in the world to "work".

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                            • #15
                              That Europeans thought the Earth was flat.
                              "With foxes we must play the fox."
                              -Thomas Fuller

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