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  • Originally posted by PhilipLaos View Post
    Maybe that large asteroid is bringing along some baby companions.

    From: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91E05Z20130215

    Reuters) - A powerful blast rocked the Russian region of the Urals early on Friday with bright objects, identified as possible meteorites, falling from the sky, emergency officials said.

    "It was definitely not a plane," an emergency official told Reuters, without elaborating. "We are gathering the bits of information and have no data on the casualties so far."

    No one was hurt in a meteor shower, an emergency official told RIA-Novosti. Local residents said they witnessed burning objects in the sky of the Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk regions.

    A Reuters witness in Chelyabinsk reported hearing a huge blast early in the morning and feeling a shockwave in a 19-storey building in the town center.

    The sounds of car alarms and breaking windows could be heard in the area, the witness said, and mobile phones were working intermittently.
    "Preliminary indications are that it was a meteorite rain," an emergency official told RIA-Novosti. "We have information about a blast at 10,000-meter (32,800-foot) altitude. It is being verified."

    The trace from a falling object could be seen in Yekaterinburg, some 200 kilometers (125 miles) southeast of Chelyabinsk, another Reuters witness said.
    I read that several hundred people were hurt, around 20 were children at a kindergarten. Also, this event is not related to the asteriod, as both are millions of miles apart, and supposedly going in different directions.
    The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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    • http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130215/179481049.html

      http://theconversation.edu.au/fireba...150-hurt-12252
      The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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      • ACG's Russian contingent has a good thread going on this event in the Current Events > Russia section.

        As far as the science, I already saw an estimated speed for the object of 30 km/s. Now we just need an estimate of its mass. It exploded before hitting the ground indicating it was probably a rocky rather than a metallic body.

        On the plus side, this could be a major shot in the arm for NEO research and international cooperation in asteroid deflection.
        Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.

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        • Live Video Feed: NASA TV

          NASA will stream live views of the asteroid via Ustream and NASA TV. The video feed will start at 2 p.m. EST, about a half hour before the asteroid is at its closest approach. NASA will host a 30-minute webcast at noon EST to show real-time animation of the asteroid's location.


          The Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. will also host a separate video feed on its Ustream account.
          "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell

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          • When I got home after hearing this on the radio, I couldn't find ANYTHING to tell me s**t about this. Not even NASA, they were talking to people who'd been on the space station.
            Not even this new news channel RT had anything. All them and CNN had was a blurb in the crawl along the bottom.
            I heard more in 3 minutes on my local news than anywhere else.
            This bass guitar kills TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • The ultimate brilliant comment by NASA:

              "The meteor strike was not caused by an asteroid."

              http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/...cientist-says/

              No , Mr. Wizard.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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              • I swear, some people who THINK they are smart, are really dumb as an ox.
                Nasa better get on the damn ball. I didn't want an interview with people who'd been on the spacestation!



                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                The ultimate brilliant comment by NASA:

                "The meteor strike was not caused by an asteroid."

                http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/...cientist-says/

                No , Mr. Wizard.
                This bass guitar kills TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • Honest to Pete, they FINALLY got it on Nasa. Whoopie. Duh.
                  This bass guitar kills TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • NASA;
                    Not Actually Smart about Anything
                    Now Actively Studying Aesthetics
                    Needs A Serious Assignment
                    "Why is the Rum gone?"

                    -Captain Jack

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                    • Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                      NASA;
                      Not Actually Smart about Anything
                      Now Actively Studying Aesthetics
                      Needs A Serious Assignment
                      Never A Straight Answer
                      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                      • Latest from Space.com. Same link I posted in the Russia section.

                        http://www.space.com/19822-russian-f...n-century.html

                        The object that caused the Russian fireball, which damaged hundreds of buildings and wounded perhaps 1,000 people in the Chelyabinsk region, was originally probably about 50 feet (15 meters) in diameter and weighed roughly 7,000 tons, said Peter Brown, director of the Center for Planetary Science and Exploration at the University of Western Ontario in Canada.
                        Just as important:

                        Brown cautioned that data on the event is preliminary.

                        I fully expect revision of some of the numbers particularly the estimate of the yield, which could easily change by a factor of two upon more complete analysis and will likely change as the day progresses, Brown concluded.
                        Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.

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                        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          The ultimate brilliant comment by NASA:

                          "The meteor strike was not caused by an asteroid."

                          http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/...cientist-says/

                          No , Mr. Wizard.
                          While this might surprise you, NASA is actually telling the truth.

                          This is NOT an Asteroid!

                          It's the Russian Government that is lying, if you can imagine. I have been following the story all day with some amusement. Although my heart goes out to those poor victims that were injured.


                          This looks like a rocket plane gone bad. The explosion was probably just the rocket fuel itself, perhaps with the requisite self destruct charge.

                          Take a look at the pictures, they tell the real story!

                          Notice the bright orange spots on the right side of the smoke trails. This is fuel still burning in the wake of the rocket plane or hypersonic cruise missile. This burning fuel is also the reason the smoke trails are so irregular. It is due to the same irregular fuel flow that probably cause the original problem.



                          Obviously this is two engines on fire leaving two trails of smoke.



                          Notice how the smoke trails are identical in size, shape, and bulbous morphology.



                          This last picture is where one of the engines stops producing smoke.



                          Asteroids are rock and metal, they DON'T burn. They leave a trail of ionized plasma in their wake. The trail will be relatively smooth, especially at 30 km/s. If you watch the movies, it's hard to believe the thing is moving that fast. This number was plucked out of the air because this is the average impact velocity for actual meteors.



                          For most people that don't know better and hope the news doesn't blatantly tell lies, here is what a REAL METEOR looks like as it breaks up in the atmosphere.



                          Also note that the object was moving in the wrong direction to be associated with the real meteor flying by, and that the Russians actually said it might be a missile from a belligerent country.

                          "Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a nationalist leader noted for his vehement statements, blamed the Americans.

                          Its not meteors falling. Its the test of a new weapon by the Americans, the RIA Novosti news agency quoted him as saying."

                          http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...4_story_2.html

                          Apparently he doesn't think it is an asteroid either. What info does he have that we don't?

                          This is clearly a cover up by the Ruskies to lay the blame of a 1000+ casualties on fate and "mother nature" rather than bad engineering and poor judgement on their part. How convenient there was a real asteroid nearby to distract everyone from the facts. What better excuse?

                          It shouldn't take an astrophysicist to realize what is really going on here.
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                          • Interesting theory there P-D. This link to a series of photos includes a couple of images taken from space, how would that fit your idea?
                            http://www.space.com/19802-russian-m...st-photos.html

                            What if this meteor is more the stoney than metal time and we're seeing 'smoke' from minerals that are burning as it ran thru the atmosphere?
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                            • Fairly good article on current state of NEO/PHA searches and tech;
                              Why Didnt We Know the Russian Meteor Was Coming?

                              http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...break_anchor_2
                              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                              • Archiving a link to the thread in "Russia" for future reference;
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=132726
                                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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