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    IS Sufferage Right? I am not a Sexist, and I doubt I ever will be, but I still believe there is power behind the "Back to the Kitchen" argument.



    Sufferage is good, but it can be taken too far, In New Zealand for example, the Curriculum is bending more towards the feminine bent, this is good for girls, whose marks are rising higher than ever, but males are suffering. terribly.

    An example is English, young boys are unable to study or write stories with violence in it, and are instead encouraged to write about something else. This is inhibiting the Boys nature, Playfights are also outlawed.

    This is taking away the males (mostly) harmless play, which is designed by nature to train boys for adulthood.


    I really made a hash of that and will probably sound like some stuck up arrogant pro-male but give it a thought.
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    Originally posted by Dashy View Post
    IS Sufferage Right? I am not a Sexist, and I doubt I ever will be, but I still believe there is power behind the "Back to the Kitchen" argument.



    Sufferage is good, but it can be taken too far, In New Zealand for example, the Curriculum is bending more towards the feminine bent, this is good for girls, whose marks are rising higher than ever, but males are suffering. terribly.

    An example is English, young boys are unable to study or write stories with violence in it, and are instead encouraged to write about something else. This is inhibiting the Boys nature, Playfights are also outlawed.

    This is taking away the males (mostly) harmless play, which is designed by nature to train boys for adulthood.


    I really made a hash of that and will probably sound like some stuck up arrogant pro-male but give it a thought.
    Deny boys the right to use their natural aggressive instincts is probably wrong, as is bottling up any emotion. It is finding an appropriate vent that is the key imo. We have a local stream that my eldest son throws rocks and stones into. And uses a stick to hit the water to make the biggest splash possible .

    As far as my life is concerned I find myself being the stay at home mother. I found myself out of work, my missus always earned more than me, and now I look after the 3 boys. I also do all the housework except laundry. Cooking from scratch I've always enjoyed anyway.

    It is harder work than I could believe, much more difficult than any proper manly job I've ever done, but surprisingly more rewarding. Now I've seen the other side of the coin, woman who wanted a mans life are possibly thinking that the grass on the otherside of the fence is greener. They may be right in many instances, but I wouldn't change my new role for all the tea in China.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dashy View Post
      IS Sufferage Right? I am not a Sexist, and I doubt I ever will be, but I still believe there is power behind the "Back to the Kitchen" argument....

      This is taking away the males (mostly) harmless play, which is designed by nature to train boys for adulthood....
      I don't see a relationship between sufferage (allowing women to vote) and restricting the adventurous activities of boys.

      My wife votes, my son is adventurous.
      My mom votes, and I was and am adventurous as well.

      What's the tie you're trying to make?
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      • #4
        More Female ministers in the Education Ministry=More Feminine Curriculum
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dashy View Post
          More Female ministers in the Education Ministry=More Feminine Curriculum
          Ah, and ministers are elected there, aren't they -- not that way here.

          Thanks.
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          • #6
            It's going to be a while yet before the full effects are felt, Its not going to be a realm of gloom and doom, it just won't be manly.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dashy View Post
              It's going to be a while yet before the full effects are felt, Its not going to be a realm of gloom and doom, it just won't be manly.
              Kinda like this?


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              • #8
                Of course we need to study what type of suffragette movement we talk about. There is the American we are all equal movement and the French we are equal but different movement amongst many.

                The two I've highlighted are the most different iirc. The US feminist version states we are exactly the same, regardless of sex. The French option states men and women are different, but we are equal although better at different things.

                What I do know is that when forced into a different role stereotypes go out the window. I look after the kids. I do the cooking, hoovering and other cleaning (except laundry). I also know that I probably look after my sprogs differently to other women.

                When I take my eldest to school I carry him on my shoulders while pushing the twins in the chair.

                My eldest loves my taking him to school for several reasons. Many of which is because he is taken by a bloke not a woman, turns up carried like an emperor, and has twin younger brothers that are always noticed. This scenario makes him feel special.

                What I can tell you from one experience, is that my son has picked up an L shaped piece of wood and started to use it like a gun. My missus does not like guns at all and I have never mentioned my years of service. I've certainly never mentioned my combat history, nor wish my sons to follow what I've done, and yet there he is pretending to shoot people before he was 3 .
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                • #9
                  Being the parent of a little girl, I want her to be the same as boys with the exception of plumbing. I want her to be a Doctor, Lawyer, or even President of the United States if she wants. (God help her if they start asking her about her Diddy!)

                  So call me a Women's libber.
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                  • #10
                    I think it's one of those social pendulum things - Anglo-Saxon feminists get revved up about all manner of things, and try to make men more like women. English being a highly ungendered language doesn't help either.

                    Come guys, suck it up and help your male offspring do well in school.

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                    • #11
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