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    I am trying to find out about unit structure and size in the various armed forces. For example, how many Bradley Fighting Vehicles are there in a company? How many Abram's in a battallion, etc. If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd apprectiate it. Thanks.

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    For smaller units, you may need to refer to army field manuals. As an example, here is a chapter from FM 71-1 that details the structure of a tank/mech infantry company team: http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...1/711-ch1f.htm

    Wikipedia gives some good general information as to makeup of different unit types: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization

    You can also search GlobalSecurity.org for the specific unit size you're looking for (that's how I got to the above FM link). For example, here is their page on "battalion": http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../battalion.htm

    Also, if there are specific units you're interested in, Wikipedia may have OOB information. Here is an image for the 1st Armored Division: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...d_Division.png
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    • #3
      Be careful about using Wikipedia and Global Security. When I've checked them recently for data similar to what's being asked for here, I found they were both well out of date.

      For example, the Abrams/BFV question above. Neither of these websites had good info the Combined Arms Battalion, which is what the Army is going to now (to replace the armored battalions and BFV battalions).

      We need a better source.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Janos View Post
        Be careful about using Wikipedia and Global Security. When I've checked them recently for data similar to what's being asked for here, I found they were both well out of date.
        Yes, one of the perils of using Wikipedia. I've actually found Wikipedia useful as a jumping off point, where footnotes and external links in an article get to more useful info.

        Another might be: http://orbat.com/

        I've heard people mention that one, but I've never referred to it.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by mirrorshades View Post
          Yes, one of the perils of using Wikipedia. I've actually found Wikipedia useful as a jumping off point, where footnotes and external links in an article get to more useful info.
          Yeah, but also true with GlobalSecurity. I do the same thing with Wikipedia, but in OB stuff I've never gotten anywhere useful with them, except at the division level, where their new graphics are fantastic.
          Another might be: http://orbat.com/

          I've heard people mention that one, but I've never referred to it.
          Yep. I've used it myself but not for modern stuff. Unfortunately, time doesn't allow me to get on there now and play with their goofy website -- very hard to use, at least for me.
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          • #6
            if you want other unit structures they are known as TO&Es i own the yahoo TO&Es group for this specific subject check my signature for the link .

            thomas
            owner of the yahoo group for WW1 ,WW2 and Modern TO&Es
            (Tables of organisation & equipment or Unit of action )

            http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/TOandEs/

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thomas.tmcc View Post
              if you want other unit structures they are known as TO&Es i own the yahoo TO&Es group for this specific subject check my signature for the link .

              thomas
              OOh. Cool. I'll sign up for that ASAP.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Janos View Post
                OOh. Cool. I'll sign up for that ASAP.
                nice one jeff ..
                owner of the yahoo group for WW1 ,WW2 and Modern TO&Es
                (Tables of organisation & equipment or Unit of action )

                http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/TOandEs/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by thomas.tmcc View Post
                  nice one jeff ..
                  It's a great list. Interesting discussion today on where the Tiger II's with Porsche turrets wound up. Also some discussion on British tanks, how they were organized and which models were in use where at which times.

                  Try it out!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Janos View Post
                    It's a great list. Interesting discussion today on where the Tiger II's with Porsche turrets wound up. Also some discussion on British tanks, how they were organized and which models were in use where at which times.

                    Try it out!

                    thanks jeff ..

                    its free info folks and doesnt cost anything to join ..

                    thomas
                    owner of the yahoo group for WW1 ,WW2 and Modern TO&Es
                    (Tables of organisation & equipment or Unit of action )

                    http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/TOandEs/

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