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    If the Japanese don't attack Pearl Harbor, and they bypass the Phillipines in their move south to Malaya and the Dutch East Indies, does FDR have any chance of getting a declaration of war through Congress? For that matter, does he want to? He was focused on Europe, and like many of that time period, considered the Japanese to be far less a threat to humanity than Nazi Germany. If the Japanese take British and Dutch colonies that most Americans couldn't even locate on a map, would they rise up and support a declaration of war? Without the Japanese attack, would Hitler have eventually declared war on the US anyway?
    If there are no dogs in Heaven, then I want to go where they went when they died-Will Rogers

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    Perhaps the only way for this to work is if the Japanese do not take over the French Indochina colonies until after they strike. The takeover gave Roosevelt an excuse to cut off oil sales and scrap iron sales to Japan. This period of being able to buy oil from the US would give the Japanese much more oil in their reserve. It also may allow the Japanese to seize the Dutch oil fields before the Dutch blow them and the refineries. The US Navy would not be there to help the Dutch and British slow the IJN.

    The Japanese Navy being able to roam far on extra oil would mess things up! They might have been able to go back into the Indian Ocean a couple of more times.

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    • #3
      The Japanese went into French Indo China as invitedguest of the Vichy Government.

      IF the Japanese had not attack PH FDR would have had a very had sell of going to war. It would have been a gamble on thier part but in hindsight a very good one. Once the line was crossed at PH FDR had no problem of getting Americans into the war. PH should rank as one of the biggest blunders in history.
      Last edited by Half Pint John; 11 Jul 10, 16:33.
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      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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        How many times do we have to answer the same question over and over again?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by johnbryan View Post
          How many times do we have to answer the same question over and over again?
          Most likely as long as you take part in a history forum John. We always have new people.
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HP
            Most likely as long as you take part in a history forum John. We always have new people.
            Yup!


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Admiral View Post
              Yup!


              I don't mean it that way. Is there any way to alert new people how to ask questions that may have already been asked many times over?
              "Profanity is but a linguistic crutch for illiterate motherbleepers"

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              • #8
                As soon as the question pops up you have to post a link to the previous discussion, or better links to the most recent two dozen discussions.

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