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  • What if Kesserling had full power in dec 1941 ?

    What if Kesserling whould have full power on the Med Theater, and also a luftflotte permanently attached in dec 1941 ?

    I mean chief of all axis power in Med, even Italian Marine and transport ships.
    Also Berlin would give him a little bit more armament and supplies.
    I mean also a plan to make the war in Med, not a day to day tactic.

  • #2
    Kesserling proved to be an excellent commander on defense. How he would be on offense is questionable.

    side note

    His family still runs a brewery in his home town close to Kitzingen Germany.
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #3
      He still had lousy sea ports to ineffectively unload his supplies and troops at. That would only continue to get worse the closer the Afrika Korps came to the border of Egypt. Logistics was always the key.
      "Profanity is but a linguistic crutch for illiterate motherbleepers"

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      • #4
        In terms of numbers does a "full Luftflotte" draw down the attack on the USSR much? Does 10% few German aircraft in the east mean 10% more Soviet aircraft & air crew survive 1941? Or that the Red AF makes 10% more attacks on the German mechanized columns?

        Or does the balance come from the west, allowing the Brits to transfer more air wings elsewhere?

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        • #5
          Well, first thing first;

          Do you think Albert could have made a better job of Crete?

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          • #6
            What do you mean ? In dec 41 the problem is central med.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by grosnain View Post
              What do you mean ? In dec 41 the problem is central med.
              Taking the beating they did at Crete that spring had a limiting effect on German ambitions in that region, IMHO it made them very hesitant to take Malta out of the picture... which was crucial.
              They also never made a serious attack on Cyprus, which was something Italy should have done in June of 40.

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              • #8
                Cyprus ?

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                • #9
                  I agree with JohnBryan. The supply situation would still have been the problem, plus you weaken the assault on Russia.

                  I think Germans would have been better served to just limit the med. theatre to interdiction of British shipping with air and surface units.

                  Rommel would have been better used in Russia.

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                  • #10
                    Well, he had most of what he needed in 1940. It didn't do him a lot of good then.
                    Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by grosnain View Post
                      Cyprus ?
                      Yes, Cyprus.
                      Guarded by a Battalion worth of regular soldiers at the start, it could have been taken and used by the Axis to to what Malta was doing to them].

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Exorcist View Post
                        Yes, Cyprus.
                        Guarded by a Battalion worth of regular soldiers at the start
                        Not just that. Cyprus was also defended by water. 450+ miles of it between Crete and Nicosia. Tack on another 100+ miles if they (meaning the fuel-starved Italian fleet) were to stage out of Athens.

                        it could have been taken and used by the Axis to to what Malta was doing to them]
                        IMO, launching an amphibious operation 450 miles from friendly shores against a hostile beach was beyond the capabilities of the Italian Navy.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Ibis View Post
                          IMO, launching an amphibious operation 450 miles from friendly shores against a hostile beach was beyond the capabilities of the Italian Navy.
                          With a defending force that small I think it's more than doable, espeically if airborne troops can get there in any shape or form.
                          How many Allied tanks it would take to destroy a Maus?
                          275. Because that's how many shells there are in the Maus. Then it could probably crush some more until it ran out of gas. - Surfinbird

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                          • #14
                            There was a "Cyprus" variant made for the old wargame 'Assualt on Crete' The designer used General Students proposal as his guide for the German force. A brigade of Germans attempts to seize a couple airfields from a collection of British infantry, service units, and local milita.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Carl Schwamberg View Post
                              There was a "Cyprus" variant made for the old wargame 'Assualt on Crete' The designer used General Students proposal as his guide for the German force. A brigade of Germans attempts to seize a couple airfields from a collection of British infantry, service units, and local milita.
                              Lets suppose this worked out (I continue to believe it couldn't be done). Trying to maintain the force on Cyprus would be near impossible given the constraints on Italian shipping. It would turn into a mini-Rabaul.

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