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  • A Different, More Decisive, Spanish American War

    Assume:
    1. Portugal never broke free from union with Spain
    2. By 1898 Spain has the following: Cuba, Puerto Rico, Philippines, Mozambique, Angola, Spanish Sahara, the entire island of Timor, Macao, the Azores, Canary Islands, sundry Moroccan ports minor African colonies, and various cities in India, as indicated by the rough map below:



    3. After the Spanish American War, Spain is totally prostrate. While Iberia remains free, the US is in a position to strip Spain of ALL of it's colonies should it so choose.

    Questions:

    1. Of these colonies, which ones would the US want:
    A. Annex outright? (Philippines)
    B. Create puppet regimes? (Cuba, possibly African colonies)
    C. Set free or return to 'rightful owners' (Macao to China, Moroccan ports to Morocco)
    2. How would the international community react?
    3. Would the U.S. let the Spanish keep their African colonies, or establish their own regime?
    4. Would they auction any of their war booty off to other colonial powers for fun and/or profit?

    Ideally, I'd like a total seizure of Spanish possessions (aside from Azores, Canary Islands and Balearic Islands as these are more or less home territories), puppeting of Cuba, creation of autonomous Indian cities (or sale to Britain if the British object too much) annexation of Timor, Philippines, Puerto Rico, return of Macao and Moroccan ports to rightful owners, auction of African possessions, but I need to know how plausible any of this would be. Help is always appreciated.
    How many Allied tanks it would take to destroy a Maus?
    275. Because that's how many shells there are in the Maus. Then it could probably crush some more until it ran out of gas. - Surfinbird

  • #2
    60 some views and no responses? Come'on people!
    How many Allied tanks it would take to destroy a Maus?
    275. Because that's how many shells there are in the Maus. Then it could probably crush some more until it ran out of gas. - Surfinbird

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    • #3
      Sorry, but I really don't see how it would have made all that much difference.

      The US was stretched pretty thin by going after P.I., and the Germans tried to interfere with that. Spanish officials in Manila were very friendly with the Germans, since surrendering the colony to fellow Europeans was considered far better than loosing them to mere Americans. Dewey had to wait many anxious weeks for infantry units to be raised and shipped out to him, before he could secure any land at all.

      I doubt that even a Destroyer, if Dewey had had one, would have been spared to go after Macao. Africa or even Timor would have been out of the question.

      Union with Portugal would have had many great repurcusions in history for both nations... but not in this case. Spain had just one Battleship, and it never saw action in that war. Another one would have made little difference.

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      • #4
        The US businessmen who supported annexation of the PI got away with it because the US public did not perceive the cost. Expending the sort of funds and military expansion for taking control of all the other Spanish colonys would not have sat well with a fiscally conservative leadership in both political parties.

        If somehow the public had been convinced to get behind such an imperial scheme the costs of military expansion and colonial administration would have dragged on US economic development for several decades.

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        • #5
          Keep Puerto Rico and Cuba since they are right next door. We should have created a "friendly" government in the PI. We needed bases for Naval replenishment which could have been granted in exchange for establishing a new nation. The rest of Spain's colonies have no real value to the US so we could have assisted them in becoming free states.
          God Save The Republic.

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          • #6
            1. Of these colonies, which ones would the US want:
            A. Annex outright? (Philippines)
            The US could have done this originally but didn't. The PI was not worth the trouble.

            B. Create puppet regimes? (Cuba, possibly African colonies)
            At the time, the African possessions were essentially worthless. Again the US would be wasting their time. Now, Cuba could have been annexed much like the American Virgin Islands and Purto Rico were. This has distinct potential that might have led to statehood.

            C. Set free or return to 'rightful owners' (Macao to China, Moroccan ports to Morocco)
            Macao is Portugese so its irrelevant (been there. Nice Casios)
            Morocco would be problematic. Europe would have a problem with this no doubt. Expanisonist American in their backyard? Probably again not worth the hassle.

            2. How would the international community react?
            Already answered that one pretty much.

            3. Would the U.S. let the Spanish keep their African colonies, or establish their own regime?
            Why go to the trouble of freeing them from Spain? This would have required a massive military build up to provide the necessary forces and transport to make it occur. The US Navy would have had to likewise been increased in size to allow it to happen. Not worth the effort.

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