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  • #31
    IIRC

    We only finished paying you lot back for it in 2006, thats a lot of debt.
    paid in full for everything sent and it took until 2006 to pay it.
    that was a post war loan. Even the British Parliament has publicly stated that it was the best loan UK ever had while the inflation rate out stripped the very low percentage rate on the loan. In effect the US LOST money on the loan.

    Here is an article from the BBC that covers the subject very well and might give you an other opinion of the subject.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4757181.stm

    HP
    Last edited by Half Pint John; 03 Aug 08, 03:52.
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #32
      oh i dont doubt it but in looking at the costs of the war its astounding
      Sealion would have failed..............runs,

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Longshanks View Post
        oh i dont doubt it but in looking at the costs of the war its astounding
        Yep, cost a bit more than holiday in Spain.

        Consider that a cost of $170 was needed to just equip each GI. 8.5 million GI's = some money.
        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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        • #34
          This is a little off topic so forgive me, but it makes me wonder if we had finished paying for the first world war before the second started.
          Sealion would have failed..............runs,

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Longshanks View Post
            This is a little off topic so forgive me, but it makes me wonder if we had finished paying for the first world war before the second started.
            Why? Read my link and you'll see that the UK still had debt from the Nappy wars that had not been paid off.
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Half Pint View Post
              Why? Read my link and you'll see that the UK still had debt from the Nappy wars that had not been paid off.
              Reminds me a Mike Doonsbury cartoon: A newly rich Yank had purchased a British aristocratic title & the broker is handing over the papers. The Yank picks up one & sees a claim for a large sum. "Your Lordships gambling debts from 1704 sir."
              Last edited by Carl Schwamberg; 03 Aug 08, 14:49.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Carl Schwamberg View Post
                Reminds me a Mike Doonsbury cartoon: A newly rich Yank had purchased a British aristocratic title & the broker is handing over the papers. The Yank picks up one & sees a claim for a large sum. 'Your Lordships gambling debts from 1704 sir."
                Yes, along those lines I guess we should only do cash and carry deals with the UK in the future
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by lcm1 View Post
                  One last word from me on the topic, I did at one time think that Roosevelt was a good friend of England in those early years of WW2 but since I have seen accounts of the American end of things which point to him most possitively pondering over whether we were worth 'the candle' of continually aiding us in the continuing struggle. In my eyes that makes for a very dodgy friendship lcm1.
                  Never a last word.

                  As I understand Roosevelt was refering specificlly to the British Empire. Somewhere along the way he'd accquired the notion that the European empires were on their last legs and likely to disolve in the next few decades. This tied with another idea, that the old 19th Century imperial model was obsolete and undesireable anyway. His view of and underlying forigen policy was influenced by this. However, this did not apply towards the general population of Europe or anywere else. The various stratigic estimates usually refered to as the Victory Plans or V Plans did not exclude rescue of Axis conquored territorrys or the arming and support of allys outside the US, However those plans did not include excessive sacrifice to prop up a Imperial British, Communist Soviet, or any other government. If the leaders in London or Moscow went down the US would deal directly with the leaders in India, Canada, Siberia, Australia, ect...

                  Franklyn Roosevelt had certain ideals, but he was rather efficient in calculation. Perhaps he had learned something from how his uncle Ted had tripped himself up with a small bit of naivety.

                  As it was the British, Soviet and several other governments did not require more sacrifice that Roosevelt & the other US leaders thought wise. I suspose some folks might make the argument that a few governments were 'cut off'. The Nationalist Chinese seem to have been on the 'D' list from 1943.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by PatBC View Post
                    FDR was going to make sure that sooner or later the US entered the war. If nothing else USN would start escort American ships to very egde of British coastal waters. Sooner or later FDR would get a either a pretext to declare war or the Germans would be provoked into declaring war in some way.

                    I was thinking the same thing when I read the title of this thread but thought I'd be the only one thinking that way.
                    Delegate, MN GOP.

                    PATRIA SI, COMUNISMO NO

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