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  • What if military technology ceased to progress once the atomic bomb was designed?

    When one considers the amount of time, energy, money and brainpower put into developing military technology since the atomic bomb's first test detonation, one can only imagine what mankind would have invented if all that was redirected to technologies noncombat related.
    I am interested in reading your thoughts on what we might and might not have today if all that resources were redirected toward peaceful applications.
    Antigravity?

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    Unfortunately the military requirements have given impetus to developing technology whose fall out has benefited the civilian sector. In other words without the impetus of military requirments I doubt that we would be as advanced as we are.

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    • #3
      Most civilian tech has militay uses and can often attract more funding.

      Antigravity, for example, would have multiple military as well as civilian applications, so how would no expenditures on military reaerach further such a technology?

      OTOH, antimilitarism in the 1970s is the main reason that the US doesn't have hundreds of nuclear power plants producing electricity today. The anger against nuclear weapons by anti war groups spilled over to nuclear energy even though they were only marginally connected.
      "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
      George Mason
      Co-author of the Second Amendment
      during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

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      • #4
        Unfortunately the military requirements have given impetus to developing technology whose fall out has benefited the civilian sector. In other words without the impetus of military requirments I doubt that we would be as advanced as we are.
        What one might consider is that with only WW2 military technology in use around the world the number of casualties might not have been as high in following conflicts. The lack of the 2 nuclear detonations alone would add hundreds of thousands to the world population. More people would mean more minds working on peaceful applications and greater need for healthcare. Medical technologies would be far superior today.

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        • #5
          Most civilian tech has militay uses and can often attract more funding.
          I agree with this statement. America in particular having an extremely large military and research and development budgets could have placed billions into civillian tech. Add to that the number scientists and personel working in such agencies redirected toward private life as well.
          Another thought: With all modern military machines guzzling fuel left and right, would we even be in a gas shortage today?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lord Ravisent View Post
            What one might consider is that with only WW2 military technology in use around the world the number of casualties might not have been as high in following conflicts. The lack of the 2 nuclear detonations alone would add hundreds of thousands to the world population. More people would mean more minds working on peaceful applications and greater need for healthcare. Medical technologies would be far superior today.

            I cannot agree with this. Two nuclear detonations as horrible as they were killed less people than the saturation aerial bombardments of Germany and Japan. Can you imagine if that tech had been carried on into other wars we have subsequently prosecuted. Smart weapons have reduced casualties imeasurably compared to the 1000 bomber raids of ww2.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lord Ravisent View Post
              What one might consider is that with only WW2 military technology in use around the world the number of casualties might not have been as high in following conflicts. The lack of the 2 nuclear detonations alone would add hundreds of thousands to the world population. More people would mean more minds working on peaceful applications and greater need for healthcare. Medical technologies would be far superior today.
              Just to add to the point that copenhagen made, without the atomic bombings of Japan, the US would have had to invade the Jpanese home islands to force a surrender, IMO. Estimates from the time were between 500,000 and 1 million fatal casualties if a fully resisted invasion of Japan had occured.
              "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
              George Mason
              Co-author of the Second Amendment
              during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cyberknight View Post
                Just to add to the point that copenhagen made, without the atomic bombings of Japan, the US would have had to invade the Jpanese home islands to force a surrender, IMO. Estimates from the time were between 500,000 and 1 million fatal casualties if a fully resisted invasion of Japan had occured.
                That was allied casualities I believe and does not include Japanese. Based on Japanese military and civilian rates on Okinawa it is likely to have been much higher.

                A study done for Secretary of War Henry Stimson's staff by William Shockley estimated that conquering Japan would cost 1.7 to 4 million American casualties, including 400,000 to 800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities. The key assumption was large-scale participation by civilians in the defense of Japan
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall

                There is no way to know if that assumption is correct or not. The Japanese Military certainly trained assuming it would be true. There is also the possibilty there would be widespread Japanese civilian sucides as there was in Okinawa. Of course such sucide events could drive Japanese casualities even higher while lowering allied casualities.
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                • #9
                  No matter what we still would try for something better -a faster gun a bigger bomb.

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                  • #10
                    People still hate, People will still be greedy and manipulative, there will still be war.

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