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  • #31
    Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
    by and large everything and anything, especially necessities as just about the entire south is basically a failed state.

    every nook and cranny available would be used to carry whatever they could get, possibly even target ships themselves.

    Minimal prize crew would be needed if towed for example
    IFthe land is under a form of baron's guard as a feudal state, bypassing customs agencies may be possible - viz the movie The j'Scarecrow.'of Romney Marsh..
    Last edited by marktwain; 29 May 19, 17:19.
    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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    • #32
      Originally posted by marktwain View Post
      Interestinger &interestinger,
      In the later 19 century, narcotics were imported by the pallet load, legally, so your boat may have a niche for compact cargo, high value, as it can defend against other smugglers..... high value insurance and bank records, etc.

      Importing slaves would be limited, as you have a surplus of Blacks who are 'narrow skilled', and we're almost forced into sharecropping....
      Quite the business man! Perhaps you could get us in touch with Professor Moriarty's organization?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by OttoHarkaman View Post

        Quite the business man! Perhaps you could get us in touch with Professor Moriarty's organization?
        Thank you, Otto!
        An example is Imperial Germany after WWI and before the Weimar republic was firmly established. What was in demand was documents, etc. as anyone banking is looking for a safe haven. Small arms , however, that depends on the amount of weapons left behind. Military small repair parts are a possibility.
        what gets smuggled out is - young female hefwigger.....
        Last edited by marktwain; 29 May 19, 10:01. Reason: holding my tongue...
        The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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        • #34
          Originally posted by MarkV View Post

          And in the1880s what would that loot consist of? The days of Spanish treasure galleons had long gone and a ship of the type described would have little room for cargo or be able to carry much in the way orf prize crews.
          Cajun queens!
          The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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          • #35
            One of the first settlers in Calcasieu Parish was a family named LeBleu (LeBleu Settlement is named after them). Lafitte was familiar with the Calcasieu River and often visited their farm. It is rumored that Jean was carrying on with Mrs LeBleu! It got her shot! The most famous "Cajun Queens" were the red haired hookers in New Orleans.

            Pruitt
            Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

            Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

            by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
              One of the first settlers in Calcasieu Parish was a family named LeBleu (LeBleu Settlement is named after them). Lafitte was familiar with the Calcasieu River and often visited their farm. It is rumored that Jean was carrying on with Mrs LeBleu! It got her shot! The most famous "Cajun Queens" were the red haired hookers in New Orleans.

              Pruitt
              I gather, M. Pruitt, that your home. Stamping grounds wasn't one of the areas of the old South that banned the Nash Lafeyette from the local movie dive uhhh, drive ins...
              http://www.thehogring.com/2016/09/08...buts-car-beds/
              Now there's a task for your ship of pirates Gen'l Jack - smuggling Nash Lafeyettes up the ol' Mississippi into the Bible Belt...



              ON a more Serious note:
              the Mississippi bisects coal fields. the other two points where coal deposits touch the sea are the Nueces strip in Texas, and the Florida panhandle. You could trade for coal refueling...
              Last edited by marktwain; 29 May 19, 18:17.
              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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              • #37
                Actually the old Vista Cruiser Station Wagon could fit a mattress as well. Picture Donna and Eric bouncing away at a local drive in! My Mother decided a mattress needed re-stuffing and she had her sons place it in the back of our Vista Cruiser. It stayed there for weeks! It impressed my future ex-wife..

                Pruitt
                Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

                Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

                by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
                  what about my posts is incoherent.

                  no one actually asked about the scenario, they made specific criticisms, and i answered them. this is the alternate history sub forum isn't it? so why do you act surprised to find out the world affairs are different?

                  is this your way of asking for the full history from the point of divergence from our timeline?
                  Actually, some of the most popular scenarios are a mixture of fact and fantasy.
                  The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                    I gather, M. Pruitt, that your home. Stamping grounds wasn't one of the areas of the old South that banned the Nash Lafeyette from the local movie dive uhhh, drive ins...
                    http://www.thehogring.com/2016/09/08...buts-car-beds/
                    Now there's a task for your ship of pirates Gen'l Jack - smuggling Nash Lafeyettes up the ol' Mississippi into the Bible Belt...



                    ON a more Serious note:
                    the Mississippi bisects coal fields. the other two points where coal deposits touch the sea are the Nueces strip in Texas, and the Florida panhandle, or up the Ten- tom river systems in south Alabama.... You could trade for coal refueling...
                    Why is dad, in the Nash, wearing a hat in bed??
                    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                      ON a more Serious note: the Mississippi bisects coal fields. the other two points where coal deposits touch the sea are the Nueces strip in Texas, and the Florida panhandle. You could trade for coal refueling...
                      There is a coal field that borders the Mansfield Battle Park. It is very low grade, but a clause in EPA regulations allowed a company to build a plant there and burn the Coal mined there.

                      Back in the 1860's period there were no Anthracite or Bituminous Coal Mines open in Texas, Louisiana, or Mississippi. There were some Anthracite and Sub-Anthracite mines being used in Alabama connected to the Steel Industry there. You might have to rethink your ship to include sails. Sailing from Mobile might work as there is a rail line that should tie into the Coal Fields.

                      Pruitt
                      Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

                      Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

                      by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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                      • #41
                        as for the actual back story, summarized the confederacy infiltrated a small army into DC, they then launched an attack that killed dozens of congressmen, dozens of aids, and even end up killing the VP, and a few upper level military commanders.
                        it happened around the same time as gettysburg, and the confederacy was too far gone to actually win the war.
                        lincoln still get assassinated about the same time as in our time line, further destabilizing the union.

                        the confederacy was defeated and without the union to keep them together and begin reconstruction, the confederate states essentially become failed states, with small city-states of semi-governance end up arising run often by what we'd call warlords to day, in some cases near the coast those leaders are pirates.

                        the union is uneager to pursue trying to bring the south back into the union due to what had happened to DC during the war, and the post war assassination.

                        the frontier is mostly cut off, but still more or less loyal to the union, but much of the frontier settlements were forced to begin building strong relationships with native tribes.

                        spain is also the only world power...or closest thing to a world power in the region.

                        that's a quick summary
                        Last edited by General_Jacke; 31 May 19, 16:49.
                        the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                        A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                        A man dies and leaves his name,
                        A teacher dies and teaches death.
                        Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by marktwain View Post
                          Interestinger &interestinger,
                          In the later 19 century, narcotics were imported by the pallet load, legally, so your boat may have a niche for compact cargo, high value, as it can defend against other smugglers..... high value insurance and bank records, etc.

                          Importing slaves would be limited, as you have a surplus of Blacks who are 'narrow skilled', and we're almost forced into sharecropping....
                          this is all largely just to give a veneer of realism/history for a tabletop game, but i'll see how much detail i can work in to make it as realistic as possible.
                          apparently drugs are always big business in the US lol.
                          the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                          A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                          A man dies and leaves his name,
                          A teacher dies and teaches death.
                          Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                          • #43
                            And then there is Kentucky under the guidance of Basil Wilson Duke, damages of the war are repaired, fresh stock from England and Saudi Arabia are imported to increase the Thoroughbred line of horses, plenty of migrant workers are employed in the tobacco fields, good bourbon is made and aged at appropriate years to increase value and control market price. Times are good

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                            • #44
                              the idea i have for my little pirate squadron, other than the converted marion everything else is defensively minded to protect vermillion bay, and marsh island from other pirates, and any light/small ships (torpedo boats or torpedo boat destroyers) or older wooden ships from regional navies.

                              a screw steamboat
                              1 12pdr/3" gun on the bow
                              P/S 47mm revolving cannons

                              then two small gunboats
                              1 75mm krupp mountain gun in the bow

                              (all the weapons taken off the marion during her refit are emplaced as shore batteries.)
                              the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                              A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                              A man dies and leaves his name,
                              A teacher dies and teaches death.
                              Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                              • #45
                                just thought i'd share this here. sort of related.
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHWNwHTtRtw
                                the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                                A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                                A man dies and leaves his name,
                                A teacher dies and teaches death.
                                Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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