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  • The Newburgh conspiracy

    History.

    So, here's the question: what if George Washington had supported the action of the officers and had been the recipient of the coup that could have overthrown the infant republic?

    George Washington was a very popular figure in the United States in 1783; could his coup (if supported by the Army) had been succesful? What would the British Army (still in New York) have done if there were signs of weakness in the United States? And how would the development of the US have changed if George Washington were declared the first president, not by unanimous vote, but instead by force of arms?

    "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." -G. Washington

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    We may have traded one King George for another!
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      Originally posted by Janos View Post
      We may have traded one King George for another!
      It's funny, the American Revolution was one of the few successful one's that did not decend into anarchy and strife afterwards. We've got men like Washington to thank for that.
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        Originally posted by johnbryan View Post
        It's funny, the American Revolution was one of the few successful one's that did not decend into anarchy and strife afterwards. We've got men like Washington to thank for that.
        Exactly. So that's where my idea comes from: what if Washington were not as dedicated towards civilian control over the army. What if he felt that congress was not serving the needs of his soldiers, despite the fact that they had been willing to die for America?

        One of the few outcomes I could see for a Washington coup is that Washington would still instate/desire a democratic republic, but he might shape it more towards his will (or limit civilian control of the army). This could have potentially crippling results for the US later on.

        Washington's first decree: wooden teeth are now mandatory!

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          We must all remember that George Washington had been a gentleman planter during the period aftre the French and Indian War. He had retired from public life and devoted it to his own business pursuits namely making Mt Vernon a success and somewhat self sufficient. He arrived in Philadelphia willing to forgoe that life in the pursuit of American Independence. He firmly din't like the British Mercantile system that especially for the southen colonies led to planters being indebted to British merchants for what seemed like life. Washington has been referred too as the American Cincinnatus a hero who out of duty answered his nations call. For background Cincinnatus was a classic Roman Republic hero who had served in the early army then retired to his farm. During a crisis he was brought back as Dictator we must remember in the republic a Dictator was a leader who was given absolute power until a crisis was over not a lifetime position. Old Latin textbooks use to contain this story for students to translate and the story even refers to Washington and the similiarities. I think when discussing the events surrounding the Newburgh mutiny as it is sometimes called we must remember that Washington himself later during the Constitutional convention rejected the title of king and even help in the discussion that led to the creation of the Presidency. To really get to my point even if Washington had supported and led the mutiny I believe he would have used the events to force the creation of the constitution earlier and the Articles of Confederations failures would've ben rectified sooner and maybe even speeded up the growth of our great country.

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