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    What would happen if the Aztecs defeated Cortes invasion?

    The Aztecs would likely capture many Spanish weapons and even it they could not figure out how to fire the guns, they would have had several iron swords and other weapons that they would know how to use. I think the Spanish would be a lot less likely or take a lot longer to invade a second time if there were no known survivers or if the Aztecs let one get back to tell everyone that he saw Cortes and the other leaders get sacrificed.

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    Cortez on the temple table might make a difference. He was the leader.

    Running the Spanish army out of Mexico City & killing many of the soldiers did a lot for the morale of the Aztecs. But, when Cortez came back with a new army it inspired the other peoples subject to the Aztec empire, to revolt & join the Spaniards.

    It is also possible the diseases the Europeans brought would have wrecked the Aztec empire with epidemics. The North Americans were crippled in their resistance to the Europeans by large epidemics.

    There are other possibilities. A few years ago a science fiction story postulated Jewish refugees from the Spanish inquisition arrived amoung the Aztecs, Mayans, and others ahead of the Conquistdors. They aided them in reppelling the Spaniards, established European technology, and in a few generations the Americans were raiding & conquoring the edges of Europe.

    Well, it made a good story.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Carl Schwamberg View Post
      Cortez on the temple table might make a difference. He was the leader.

      Running the Spanish army out of Mexico City & killing many of the soldiers did a lot for the morale of the Aztecs. But, when Cortez came back with a new army it inspired the other peoples subject to the Aztec empire, to revolt & join the Spaniards.

      It is also possible the diseases the Europeans brought would have wrecked the Aztec empire with epidemics. The North Americans were crippled in their resistance to the Europeans by large epidemics.

      There are other possibilities. A few years ago a science fiction story postulated Jewish refugees from the Spanish inquisition arrived amoung the Aztecs, Mayans, and others ahead of the Conquistdors. They aided them in reppelling the Spaniards, established European technology, and in a few generations the Americans were raiding & conquoring the edges of Europe.

      Well, it made a good story.
      Jewish Aztecs! - man, those guys would have some big hawkish noses!
      If you believe, you receive.
      If you doubt, you go without.

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      • #4
        The epidemics put a sharp halt to most of the speculation, unfortunately.

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        • #5
          he he.. unless you think that the epidemic worked the other way around... beaten back conquistadores bring back a super-plague to europe... yikes!

          but one can't feel sad for a great civilization (any civ that practices human sacrifice is worthy of respect!) disappearing....
          "Freedom cannot exist without discipline, self-discipline, and rights cannot exist without duties. Those who do not observe their duties do not deserve their rights."--Oriana Fallaci

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          • #6
            Originally posted by piero1971 View Post
            he he.. unless you think that the epidemic worked the other way around... beaten back conquistadores bring back a super-plague to europe... yikes!
            In and after the middle ages hygienic conditions in Europe were so lousy that in all likelihood nothing new could shake them except black death.

            Of course, in the unlikely event of an actual epidemic, the catholic church would ensure destruction of as much of society as possible.

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            • #7
              yup, a receipt in europe at the time was that, when in trouble and in doubt, blame the jews...
              "Freedom cannot exist without discipline, self-discipline, and rights cannot exist without duties. Those who do not observe their duties do not deserve their rights."--Oriana Fallaci

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              • #8
                " beaten back conquistadores bring back a super-plague to europe... yikes!"

                Actually Syphills was epidemic in Europe in the early 1500s. Historians speculate that the strain brought back from the Americas was particularly virulent, or that the Europeans had no naturual resisitance to the new disease. For several decades it was a new plague.

                However Syphills kills slowly like tobacco, and those were the only two major killers that from from the Americas to Europe. Not enough to halt the eventual wave of European immigrants.

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