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    what if maryland had joined the south could the south have taken washington i saw on the history channel that a bunch of people were ready to join then they saw the rebel army with no shoes and a lack of supplies and didnt join so could they have taken washington if they had help from maryland

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    I believe that there were too many Federal troops stationed in Maryland so it couldn't have joined the Confederacy. Many must have sympathized with the South, remember the riot in Baltimore? There were also Maryland units fighting for the South, just not "officially", so I don't think it would have mattered too much if Maryland had joined the Southern states. Lincoln wasn't about to give up the Federal capital without a big fight (his political capital was at stake too!)>

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      a question to al the Civil War experts here ( I am not one).

      what if the Confederacy had won - and possible the whole of the USA kept beeing united under Jefferson Davis as president and not Lincoln.

      what would have been different in the new CSA constitution, etc. politics, etc?

      I would assume that slavery (not the cause nor reaosn of the war anyway) would have been abolished sooner than later anyway, but would federal state have less powers? and the CSA be more a confederation of semi-independent states (in the spirit of the founding fathers) rather than a strong-federalistic governement as it became?
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        Originally posted by piero1971
        a question to al the Civil War experts here ( I am not one).

        what if the Confederacy had won - and possible the whole of the USA kept beeing united under Jefferson Davis as president and not Lincoln.

        what would have been different in the new CSA constitution, etc. politics, etc?

        I would assume that slavery (not the cause nor reaosn of the war anyway) would have been abolished sooner than later anyway, but would federal state have less powers? and the CSA be more a confederation of semi-independent states (in the spirit of the founding fathers) rather than a strong-federalistic governement as it became?
        That probably ought to be a whole new thread.
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          Originally posted by granite
          I believe that there were too many Federal troops stationed in Maryland so it couldn't have joined the Confederacy. Many must have sympathized with the South, remember the riot in Baltimore? There were also Maryland units fighting for the South, just not "officially", so I don't think it would have mattered too much if Maryland had joined the Southern states. Lincoln wasn't about to give up the Federal capital without a big fight (his political capital was at stake too!)>
          There were "official" Maryland units fighting for the South -- a list can be found at http://www.researchonline.net/mdcw/toc.htm -- all were identified as Maryland units. There were also some "unofficial" units and groups of Marylanders serving in other states' units -- usually Virginia.

          Lincoln would never have allowed Maryland to secede and I cannot imagine anything he would not have done to ensure it stayed that way...as it was he arrested members of the legislature and political leaders that he felt would cause trouble (http://teachingamericanhistorymd.net...html/t114.html) and declared martial law for the state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_states_(Civil_War)). It Missouri newspaper publishers (or editors, I can't remember which) others were also arrested -- I suspect this also happened in Maryland but don't have the facts on it.
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            Maryland almost left the Union when Virginia did, but Lincoln arrested some of the pro-south leaders and suspended the right to a fair and quick trial. So if Lincon had not done that we could easily have faced that situation.

            If Maryland had joined to Confederacy, Washington would have fallen fairly soon and the war would have lasted longer but the South probably would have lost in the end.

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