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    After the fall of the Alamo, General Antonio López de Santa Anna led his triumphant Mexican army to the area near where the city of Houston stands today by Sam Houston's soldiers at the Battle of San Jacinto (April 21, 1836).

    Sam Houston was outnumbered and out-equipped but was successful in his use of surprise and Santa Anna's army was defeated and he was captured.

    But what if Santa Anna had posted guards and his army chewed up the Texicans and took Sam Houston out of the war (death, capture, etc.), resulting in the end of Texas's independence.

    What would have happened next? No Mexican War? No immigration crisis in the US right now. What else?

    For facts on the real battle see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_San_Jacinto.
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    German victory in WW1. Think about it. Zimmerman telegram never gets sent, because US has no former Mexican territory. Germany doesn't send the note. US doesn't get irrate that Germany is trying to drag them into the war. No AEF gets sent to France. Allies don't have resurgance in troops. Germany can push through Allied lines and capture Paris. What would happen then?

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    • #3
      What was the sentiment in the USA, proper, in 1836? A former US Congressman and US folk hero, Davey Crockett was among those Texican martyrs at the Alamo.

      After the massacres at Goliad and the Alamo, had Sam Houston met the same fate at San Jacinto...Would the USA have intervened? Many of those Texicans who died at Goliad and the Alamo were volunteers from the US Army and various state militias.

      Could a Texican defeat at San Jacinto have caused the Mexican War to occur 10 years sooner than it did? Santa Anna had ordered the summary execution of all Texicans who were captured or surrendered. Could news of this so enraged the USA, that a full scale invasion of Mexico been demanded?
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      • #4
        Mexican minutemen guarding the border to prevent poor yankees to go work in Texas oilfields as laborers?

        honestly I think it would have very little difference... "Manifest Destiny" was already on the move and the irresistible expansion of the US to the West and South West was already going on.. and it might have meant a raid to the halls of Montezuma a bit sooner, or more costly.. but eventually the USA was on a roll against anyone preventing it's expansion.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by piero1971
          honestly I think it would have very little difference... "Manifest Destiny" was already on the move and the irresistible expansion of the US to the West and South West was already going on.. and it might have meant a raid to the halls of Montezuma a bit sooner, or more costly.. but eventually the USA was on a roll against anyone preventing it's expansion.
          So you think that we would have eventually taken Texas and the rest of the SW anyway?
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          • #6
            yes, I do. that's because the US was a power in becoming, and it needed expansion.
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