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  • What is the smallest event/thing that could change the course of WWII

    The U.S. Carriers were at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7th 1941.

    The first German bombers never got lost and bombed London during the blitz.

    Rommel was given a command on the Eastern Front

    The French Maginot was extended to cover the Ardenne region.


    What else could of changed the course of WWII?

  • #2
    Chamberlin says "enough" when germany marches into czech. territory.
    Hitler alows his Generals to do their job
    German army retreats from Stalingrad intact
    i yam what i yam and thats what i yam!

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    • #3
      Hitler doesn't split his forces in Operation Blue and secures Stalingrad in force before turning south along the Volga and into the Caucasus, effectively cutting Russia off from its main oil supply.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by huskiej
        The U.S. Carriers were at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7th 1941.

        The first German bombers never got lost and bombed London during the blitz.

        Rommel was given a command on the Eastern Front

        The French Maginot was extended to cover the Ardenne region.


        What else could of changed the course of WWII?
        None of the above!

        Churchill taking the fall for the botched Norwegian operations in 1940 (as he should have!).

        'Strafer' Gott not being killed in an air accident in August 1942.

        Hitler heeding to the advice of his top generals prior to launching any of the major German operations during WW2!
        Signing out.

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        • #5
          how about Herman Gehring shot down,presumed dead in ww1
          i yam what i yam and thats what i yam!

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          • #6
            How about Hitler's father never meeting his mother?

            To go to the smallest detail, you will need to liken it to 'For want of a nail,..."

            What if Yamamoto's plane was early, or late?

            What if Einstein wasn't born?

            What if Hitler didn't change ME262 production from fighters to bombers? And, back again?

            What if Hitler never got out of prison?

            What if Stalin wasn't paranoid? And, didn't purge his officer corps?

            ...
            Retreat hell, we just got here. Every Marine, a rifleman.

            Never let the facts get in the way of the truth.

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            • #7
              it gets a little crazy doesnt it.
              i yam what i yam and thats what i yam!

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              • #8
                If Hitler had decided not to bomb Britain, Germany may have been able to work out a peace treaty with Britain. But once the Battle of Britain began, and the subsequent bombing of British cities started, there was no alternative but total war between Britain and Germany.

                Another event that could have changed the course of WW II is if the Royal Navy had failed to capture the enigma code machine out of a sinking U-boat. If the British had not been able to capture the machine and then break the code, they may have lost most of their shipping to german U-boats and the german blockade would have been hugely successful.
                "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." ~ Marcus Aurelius

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                • #9
                  Let me throw you guys a curve ball.

                  The Zimmerman Note!
                  I know what you're thinking.
                  But it makes sense, and falls within the criteria of this thread.
                  If Mexico would have invaded The United States and been successful, that alone would have definitely changed the course of World War Two.

                  19 January, 1917:

                  The Zimmerman Note
                  to the German Minister to Mexico

                  "The following is an edited version on the document"
                  Berlin, January 19, 1917
                  On the first of February we intend to begin submarine warfare unrestricted. In spite of this, it is our intention to endeavor to keep neutral the United States of America.
                  If this attempt is not successful, we propose an alliance on the following basis with Mexico: That we shall make war together and together make peace. We shall give general financial support, and it is understood that Mexico is to reconquer the lost territory in New Mexico, Texas, and Arizona.
                  (Secretary of State)
                  Can you imagine if Mexico would have pulled this off?
                  Why didn't Mexico go for it?
                  What shape was their military in?
                  Slug
                  Last edited by Slug; 09 Apr 06, 17:26.
                  "Advances in technology tend to overwhelm me."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Slug
                    The Zimmerman Note!
                    <pssst>
                    Erm,...Sluggo,...that's World War One.
                    The Purist

                    Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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                    • #11
                      smallest thing, with hugest difference.

                      polish mathematician gets killed fleeing Poland.

                      allied don't break the German codes.

                      we all now speak fluent German.
                      "Freedom cannot exist without discipline, self-discipline, and rights cannot exist without duties. Those who do not observe their duties do not deserve their rights."--Oriana Fallaci

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                      • #12
                        I see the Zimmerman note connected to World War Two.

                        Originally posted by The Purist
                        <pssst>
                        Erm,...Sluggo,...that's World War One.
                        Yes.
                        Exactly.
                        Had Mexico invaded the United States, my premise is that this act would have changed the course of WWII.
                        Slug
                        "Advances in technology tend to overwhelm me."

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                        • #13
                          The smallest thing that could change WW2? Hitler, FDR, Stalin, or Churchill being killed in a car/airplane wreck. Removing any of those key characters would have had a drastic influence on the war.
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                          • #14
                            Someone placing the briefcase bomb in the right place and killing Hitler in 44' or better yet, the plan for a military coup and assasination in 38' coming to fruition and eliminating Hitler before the war started.
                            If you can't set a good example, be a glaring warning.

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                            • #15
                              What if Albert Einstein never left Germany?
                              What if the Italian that created Nuclear Fusion never left Italy?

                              I think we can simply say: Axis Victory!
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