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  • DS,

    On a balmy English day, how does a German tug unhook a barge or three, and get them through the surf to the beach?

    And when they are wallowing side on to the breakers, how do they hook them up and take them back to France?


    John.
    The PLO claims ALL of Israel!!! There will and can NEVER be a "2 State solution".

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    • There would have been no breakers during the period S Day to about S+5, probably later. Unfortunately the Channel was a mill pond during late September 1940. The challenge for any barges approaching the coast would have been the 4 knot west to east current at dawn (worst of it down by Dungeness).
      The Purist

      Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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      • How did they arrive at a specific "S-Day"?

        I thought that was one of the great unknowns, plenty of possibilities, but nothing down to one day.


        John.
        The PLO claims ALL of Israel!!! There will and can NEVER be a "2 State solution".

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        • For the Sept scenario it was assumed the "go" was given in time for Sept 25th being S-Day.

          Sometime when you have a weekend to kill go up to the WWI forum and search "Sealion" in "Battles and Campaigns". Lots of good information on what the Germans actually managed to gather for the attempt, far more than what one would expect. Even so it was necessary to have the RAF pushed back from the south-east and to have the invasion force cross the Channel undetected to get the Germans in position to attempt to land according to their plan (which was pretty good,... on paper).
          The Purist

          Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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          • Originally posted by The Purist View Post
            The Thread That Shall Not Be Named.

            Its about the likely success of the invasion of Britain during a certain war. <<SHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!>>
            TP, did that thread discuss the effect of a failed invasion on the prosecution of the war, or was it limited (wrong word I'm sure) to the theoretical invasion itself?

            Thanks

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            • Naw,... the thread self-destructed as neither camps would bend on what was possible. Even the 'game' had to be abandoned because the two sides would not accept the combat results that didn't go their way.
              The Purist

              Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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              • Originally posted by The Purist View Post
                Naw,... the thread self-destructed as neither camps would bend on what was possible. Even the 'game' had to be abandoned because the two sides would not accept the combat results that didn't go their way.
                Thanks. That would make for an interesting what if:
                German air force heavily battered;
                German navy wiped out;
                A dozen or so army divisions off the books;
                Enormous loss of German prestige; and
                Huge gain for British prestige and morale

                So its early 1941 and what happens?

                I'm halfway tempted...

                Nah. It will devolve into what you guys already argued about.

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                • Originally posted by The Ibis View Post
                  Thanks. That would make for an interesting what if:
                  German air force heavily battered;
                  German navy wiped out;
                  A dozen or so army divisions off the books;
                  Enormous loss of German prestige; and
                  Huge gain for British prestige and morale

                  So its early 1941 and what happens?

                  I'm halfway tempted...

                  Nah. It will devolve into what you guys already argued about.
                  Don't forget. It would be a year later and the British would be far stronger in 1941 than in 1940, with far more ships, aircraft, troops and an economy that is 100% mobilized and on a full wartime footing, unlike Germany. It wasn't until after Stalingrad surrendered that the Germans went on a total war footing in early 1943.
                  "Profanity is but a linguistic crutch for illiterate motherbleepers"

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