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  • #31
    If Germany does indeed invade Spain, won't they have to violate Vichy territory to do that? All the overseas Vichy colonies might then defect to the Allies which will negate the need for the operations against Syria and Madagascar. The French fleet would go too.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by AdrianE View Post
      If Germany does indeed invade Spain, won't they have to violate Vichy territory to do that? All the overseas Vichy colonies might then defect to the Allies which will negate the need for the operations against Syria and Madagascar. The French fleet would go too.
      No. Coastal France to a depth of like 30 kilometers was under German control.



      They could have easily made it so that the Vichy state didn't include a border with Spain at the time of formation.

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      • #33
        Germany cannot invade Spain until after Barbarossa as it would breach the non aggression pact with the Soviets as the Republicans would be s Soviet ally.
        "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Surrey View Post
          Germany cannot invade Spain until after Barbarossa as it would breach the non aggression pact with the Soviets as the Republicans would be s Soviet ally.
          Maybe, maybe not... The Germans and Soviets were playing pretty loose with who was an ally of whom so this might not be so different.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            No. Coastal France to a depth of like 30 kilometers was under German control.
            Funneling an army or two, a luftflotte and their logistical support elements down a 30km wide corridor does not strike me as a rational plan.

            Also the railway line you want to use is firmly in Vichy territory.

            You really need to set a date for the invasion so that an informed discussion can occur.

            Option 1) The Germans don't agree to an armistice and conquer the rest of continental France. Invasion starts Fall 1940. No Battle of Britian. All overseas possessions go Free French and the French fleets joins the allies

            Option 2) The Germans invade in Spring 1941 after logistically building up in the Bayonne area. Vichy formation and BoB happen as per OTL.

            Option 3) Same as 2 but Germans invade at the same time as Barbarrossa.

            What role are the Italians going to play?
            What tradeoffs are made?
            What happens in the Balkans in Spring 1941?
            How are the logistics handled?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by AdrianE View Post
              Funneling an army or two, a luftflotte and their logistical support elements down a 30km wide corridor does not strike me as a rational plan.

              Also the railway line you want to use is firmly in Vichy territory.

              You really need to set a date for the invasion so that an informed discussion can occur.

              Option 1) The Germans don't agree to an armistice and conquer the rest of continental France. Invasion starts Fall 1940. No Battle of Britian. All overseas possessions go Free French and the French fleets joins the allies

              Option 2) The Germans invade in Spring 1941 after logistically building up in the Bayonne area. Vichy formation and BoB happen as per OTL.

              Option 3) Same as 2 but Germans invade at the same time as Barbarrossa.

              What role are the Italians going to play?
              What tradeoffs are made?
              What happens in the Balkans in Spring 1941?
              How are the logistics handled?
              I'm not the one that needs to detail this out that much. I simply have stated that if Germany wanted to invade they could and Spain didn't have the military to stop them.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Surrey View Post
                Germany cannot invade Spain until after Barbarossa as it would breach the non aggression pact with the Soviets as the Republicans would be s Soviet ally.
                I was wondering about that too, but Moscow didn't make much noise about their other ally, Yugoslavia, getting pasted.
                And to think, WW1 started because Russia wasn't willing to let Serbia get picked on.

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                "Why is the Rum gone?"

                -Captain Jack

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