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  • German combat use of D-IX drug wins them the war

    This article http://www.rense.com/general34/enhance.htm
    refers to the German drug D-IX that enabled a soldier to fight 3 days at full energy without pause, before he probably dropped dead!

    Is there any event or battle in WW2 where judicious or even widespread use of such a drug would have been avail to the Germans? eg at Kursk and the Battle of the Bulge, where the Germans continue to advance whilst the Russians and Americans collapse of exhaustion?!

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    Based on personal observation of subjects who have imbibed similar compounds, I would say it would produce a vastly lower combat effectiveness.

    The subjects are stoned out of their gourds; mental acuity, motor control, decision-making, and technical expertise are all badly affected.

    I don't believe that your link is a valid article; the compound they describe is basically a high-end eightball or speedball, and those certainly do not make you a more effective soldier.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mifletz View Post
      This article http://www.rense.com/general34/enhance.htm
      refers to the German drug D-IX that enabled a soldier to fight 3 days at full energy without pause, before he probably dropped dead!
      I doubt that that would be accurate. Assuming that it is, campaigns last more than 3 days, and throwing away soldiers for a short-term tactical victory is not a good idea for Germany.
      Michele

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      • #4
        Amphetamines and other stimulants were widely distributed to troops in WW 2 in most of the major armies. They had mixed results with them at best.

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        • #5
          Speed kills. That's the bottom line...
          Credo quia absurdum.


          Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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          • #6
            We used to do the same thing with caffeine. Strong coffee for the officers & lifers, Jolt or Mountain Dew for the jr enlisted, over the counter diet pills or No Doze for others. All that was ok for staying awake on guard duty, or the midnight watch, but useless for extended high demand operations. Sure you could stay awake, but after 20 to 24 hours judgement went down the toilet as did situational awareness, memory, and about every other useful mental trait. Severe fatigue can aggravate fear, and interfear with the production of natural stimulants like adrenalin. Training till you drop is great... for training. In combat you want really tough people who are used to fatigue, and who have some rest each day.

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            • #7
              The allies just take the punishment and after 3 days when the Germans begin to drop dead of heart attacks the allies just walk through the gaps and wipe out the remaining walking dead.

              In-effective to say the least.

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              • #8
                Since this is 11/44 when they try it, about half their soldiers drop dead within hours from medical complications due to their initial poor health. After all, by that date the Germans were recruiting / drafting men and boys that were by US standards category 4 (mentally deficient, having serious medical conditions, or otherwise unfit).
                Giving this to say a 50 year old man with a coronary condition probably isn't a good thing....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                  Since this is 11/44 when they try it, about half their soldiers drop dead within hours from medical complications due to their initial poor health. After all, by that date the Germans were recruiting / drafting men and boys that were by US standards category 4 (mentally deficient, having serious medical conditions, or otherwise unfit).
                  Giving this to say a 50 year old man with a coronary condition probably isn't a good thing....
                  Yeah but why deprive an old guy a buzz in the last few hours of his miserable life

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                  • #10
                    Clips exaggeratedly depicting crazed neo-Nazi monks from the French film "Crimson Rivers 2" who find a stash of D-IX and are able to outrun the police!

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2g_xWPAyrk

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD4sk32qYg4

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                    • #11
                      http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/.../?intcmp=hpbt4

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                      • #12
                        Crazed soldiers on drugs are no match for Allied firepower.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BobTheBarbarian View Post
                          Crazed soldiers on drugs are no match for Allied firepower.


                          Well, zombie Nazis would be tougher, gotta get them head shots in...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post


                            Well, zombie Nazis would be tougher, gotta get them head shots in...
                            I watched that movie out of morbid curiosity...it was 1 and 1/2 hours well spent.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BobTheBarbarian View Post
                              I watched that movie out of morbid curiosity...it was 1 and 1/2 hours well spent.
                              Really? Or sarcastically? I'm trying to find a reason not to watch it.
                              The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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