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  • BWB2
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    Originally posted by Frtigern View Post
    Here’s what Rome has got to do first. They have to capitalize on American mistakes and feeding on animosity aimed at it. They will need the military capabilities of all Eurozone countries, with emphasis on German and British cooperation. Why? The only way to make the United States crippled in Europe is to attack it by surprise at all US installations at once. The US has no intention of leaving anytime soon. Italy could do this on its own soil, but Germany, England, and Turkey. You also have to seize the US Naval bases in Spain, Italy and Greece, and US Army bases in Italy and Germany. I could see two things happening in the engagement, the US finds out about it, due to the unannounced mobilizations of air power, ships and troops towards its bases and puts up a defense, causing many casualties on both sides. Or the US doesn’t know about it because the EU countries involved make the mobilization under the guise of an “exercise”. They focus on patrolling the air around the bases and telling the US to surrender. If any commanders decide to fight, their assets would be destroyed before they have a chance to mobilize their own planes, ships or troops. On conditions of surrender the US is allowed safe passage back to the US on American owned airliners, cargo planes and cargo ships. All combat material is confiscated from nuclear submarines to pistol rounds.

    Other nations seeing how the US was just supplanted as world power will begin to distance themselves on being dependent on the US. South and Central America may become bolder. Canada wants to remain neutral but would have to join the US unless it makes a pact with the Europeans. The US is basically dependent on Asian alliances and they aren’t that great. Japan and South Korea may be the only one’s willing to help. Australia, New Zealand and India would be on the fence. Being wary of European actions the US may pull troops out of Asia and deploy them near the Atlantic. Rome will need the help of South American and Asian countries if it wants to take the US. Remember that the Southwest United States is not a place that is easily invaded. It’s dry and rocky. There is little to make use of for food and water until you reach the few rivers that flow through it. The people of the Southwest are proud of the land they own and the independence they enjoy. A lot of them own guns, hunting weapons that could make them a potent hit and run force that will see a lot of officers being picked off, supplies being stolen and destroyed and crucial transport routes ambushed or blocked. Hunting them down will slow your progress substantially. This will give the US time to deploy domestic troops to the South. Texas will not bow down to Italian governors.
    I agree with everything you said. I especially agree about the terrain in the southwest. The right kind of Special Forces in that area could wreak havoc on the Romans. In the book the U.S. armed forces are only strong enough to hold the line, not to take back ground. A Special Forces unit based on an old idea is central to the book. The hot zone in the book is the Texas/New Mexico border (The Romans have part of west Texas), but the front lines snake from the Colorado/New Mexico border to the Kansas/Missouri border and the Nevada/Arizona/California border area. Rome also captures the Atlantic coastline area from Georgia to South Carolina. Keep in mind the U.S. forces were brought to pre-World War I levels by the administration in charge at the time of the invasion . Bases around the world were closed in favor of isolationism. The American people in the occupied areas do not give in though.

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  • Frtigern
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    Here’s what Rome has got to do first. They have to capitalize on American mistakes and feeding on animosity aimed at it. They will need the military capabilities of all Eurozone countries, with emphasis on German and British cooperation. Why? The only way to make the United States crippled in Europe is to attack it by surprise at all US installations at once. The US has no intention of leaving anytime soon. Italy could do this on its own soil, but Germany, England, and Turkey. You also have to seize the US Naval bases in Spain, Italy and Greece, and US Army bases in Italy and Germany. I could see two things happening in the engagement, the US finds out about it, due to the unannounced mobilizations of air power, ships and troops towards its bases and puts up a defense, causing many casualties on both sides. Or the US doesn’t know about it because the EU countries involved make the mobilization under the guise of an “exercise”. They focus on patrolling the air around the bases and telling the US to surrender. If any commanders decide to fight, their assets would be destroyed before they have a chance to mobilize their own planes, ships or troops. On conditions of surrender the US is allowed safe passage back to the US on American owned airliners, cargo planes and cargo ships. All combat material is confiscated from nuclear submarines to pistol rounds.

    Other nations seeing how the US was just supplanted as world power will begin to distance themselves on being dependent on the US. South and Central America may become bolder. Canada wants to remain neutral but would have to join the US unless it makes a pact with the Europeans. The US is basically dependent on Asian alliances and they aren’t that great. Japan and South Korea may be the only one’s willing to help. Australia, New Zealand and India would be on the fence. Being wary of European actions the US may pull troops out of Asia and deploy them near the Atlantic. Rome will need the help of South American and Asian countries if it wants to take the US. Remember that the Southwest United States is not a place that is easily invaded. It’s dry and rocky. There is little to make use of for food and water until you reach the few rivers that flow through it. The people of the Southwest are proud of the land they own and the independence they enjoy. A lot of them own guns, hunting weapons that could make them a potent hit and run force that will see a lot of officers being picked off, supplies being stolen and destroyed and crucial transport routes ambushed or blocked. Hunting them down will slow your progress substantially. This will give the US time to deploy domestic troops to the South. Texas will not bow down to Italian governors.

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  • TacCovert4
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Italy can't even make a decently reliable car.... That isn't the stuff empires are built on....

    Failed Italian Automotive Technology (FIAT)
    Italy didn't develop half of the stuff that they used back in their Empire days. The Gladius from Spain, the ships from Greece, the maniple formation from the Samnites, the Velites from another tribe, the Cavalry from the Gauls and Germans. The Republic is a modified and improved version of the Greek Democracy.

    So long as they can take good gear and concepts from other nations and improve them or forge them into their own system, the idea can work.

    You don't have to invent a new idea to make an empire. You just have to use the old ones better than anyone else ever did.

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  • BWB2
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    Here are the Pinterest pages that have the places and things in the Book-
    Places: http://bit.ly/X72oR3

    Things: http://bit.ly/13tUVBT

    Thank you for all the feedback on my book!

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  • Hida Akechi
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    No problem. Hope the others can give you valuable input as well.

    That's a pretty terrible split (65/35). Tells me that too many US citizens have forgot their own history.

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  • BWB2
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    Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post
    OK then, it would take a disarmed US to allow itself to be invaded and territory controled.

    And it would take a kotowing President AND Congress to allow such an act to remain unpunished.

    However, the US population would not stand for that and those leaders in Congress that are traitors will be removed quickly. Some will switch sides and return to the fold (they need the votes; or they don't really want their necks stretched). So I think it would be the shortest of possible time that the US would be weak and invaded.

    There should, at the least, be massive guerrilla forces fighting and driving back the invaders even before the US military re-gears up. And the same should be happening in Europe. As popular as the Caesar may be, there are always some sharp individuals that will see what all of this really means and take action. Especially in places like Britain and Poland.
    You are correct. All that is covered in the book. There is a guerilla resistance that takes place in the occupied states. There is also some public sentiment that the U.S. should surrender, about a 65/35% split against surrender. There are supporters of Rome in congress, and at state and local levels know as "Marbleheads" . There is even a small resistance in Rome.

    Great input!

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  • Hida Akechi
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    OK then, it would take a disarmed US to allow itself to be invaded and territory controled.

    And it would take a kotowing President AND Congress to allow such an act to remain unpunished.

    However, the US population would not stand for that and those leaders in Congress that are traitors will be removed quickly. Some will switch sides and return to the fold (they need the votes; or they don't really want their necks stretched). So I think it would be the shortest of possible time that the US would be weak and invaded.

    There should, at the least, be massive guerrilla forces fighting and driving back the invaders even before the US military re-gears up. And the same should be happening in Europe. As popular as the Caesar may be, there are always some sharp individuals that will see what all of this really means and take action. Especially in places like Britain and Poland.

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  • BWB2
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    Originally posted by Salinator View Post
    Treaty? They shall be reintroduced under the old names of the provinces into The New Empire. Rome only has to fear Carthage and Parthia with all that Arab Spring and Islamic Awakening and all.
    Some will, such as Carthage in the former Vasekt controlled areas. But nations such as France and Spain will keep their names. There is a P.R. move to allow the countries to keep their own governments, but there is a Governor and a Dux (Sometimes one in the same) appointed to all the nations that surrender to Rome. The exception to keeping the government would be in places that the Vasekts had control. Caesar (Giovanni Caprera) hates the Vasekts and does things such as make sure women have rights in those places.

    Great question! Keep 'em coming! You are a very knowledgeable group!

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by Frtigern View Post
    So where is France in all this? They just sign a treaty with Rome? What about Spain and Greece? Same story?
    Treaty? They shall be reintroduced under the old names of the provinces into The New Empire. Rome only has to fear Carthage and Parthia with all that Arab Spring and Islamic Awakening and all.

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Italy can't even make a decently reliable car.... That isn't the stuff empires are built on....

    Failed Italian Automotive Technology (FIAT)
    They at least can build cars that can pass US safety tests, the Chinese have not and yet half the world is terrified of them.

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  • BWB2
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    I appreciate all the feedback I have been getting on this! I am writing the second book now and it helps to hear your ideas. With regards to the middle east, there is a terrorist group called the Vasekts out of Turkey who grow to become the next Ottoman Empire, they take over most of the same countries involved in the Arab spring, and are aligned with nations that have similar philosophies. Israel manages to keep them at bay, but they are basically surrounded. The Vasekts then focus on Europe starting first with things like car bombings to ferment chaos. The cause the collapse of the government in Italy and then follow with troops. The highest ranking member of the Italian Army takes charge and uses whatever means possible to drive them back. When he succeeds, he is an instant hero. He is made Caesar and then he offers "protection" to other countries in Europe and drives out the Vasekts from them as well. The U.K. and Germany refuse, and the U.K. is invaded by the Romans as a "rescue" from the Vasekts. France accepts the offer of protection as does Spain and a few other countries. I do not specifically talk about South and Central America, with the exception of Mexico. I can tell you South and Central America stay neutral, but sympathize with Rome. It is split with the Scandinavian countries. Japan and Australia are against Rome but do not commit any troops in this book.

    I should have been more clear about the U.S. Military, when I said downsized, it is to the point of being nearly disarmed. The Romans use a tactic based on that fact that makes their invasion of the U.S. Southwest almost uneventful.

    If you are interested the name of the book is New Rome Risesux Imperatorius.

    Again, I really appreciate all the feedback. Please keep it coming!
    Last edited by BWB2; 17 Jan 13, 23:25.

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  • Emtos
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    Failed Italian Automotive Technology (FIAT)

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Selous View Post
    The 500 was supposed to be quite good
    Compared to Chrystler it probably is. Compared to Toyota, not so much....

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  • Selous
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    Technically, doesn't it have multiple armies?


    What it does have are a couple of projects lined up for using force, including but not limited to the Battlegroups and EUNAVFOR

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  • spwgame
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    Originally posted by Surrey View Post
    Isn't there already aa new 'Roman' empire being created in Europe anyway - the EU?
    I would say the EU is like the Roman Empire, but without an army. Eventually some foreigner's they have brought in but have not assimilated will do the same thing that was done to the Roman Empire of old.

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