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  • Shaka vs. Hannibal

    Hannibal has the army he posessed at Cannae. Shaka has a similar number of Zulu warriors.
    First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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    Hmm....hard one. Naturally the Zulus are capable of sweeping all before them. But this is Hannibal we're talking about too....

    On the technicalities of it, I'm going to say these points give Hannibal an advantage so long as the terrain does not favor Shaka:

    1) Having Elephants. While the Zulus have seen them surely....have they ever seen people riding them? Or using them as living weapons to trample men underfoot? That could cause some momentary pause....

    2) No Islawanda....Are the Zulus traditional, or do they have firearms in some small quantity?

    3) Unlike the British Infantry, the better of the African Infantry is equipped with armor that will give the Zulus some trouble in piercing with their spears. Also they fight in tight formation with spears and short swords (classic Phalanx). This will give the Zulus some trouble as well.

    4) Light and Heavy Cavalry. Hannibal has both light cavalry equipped with Javelins and heavy cavalry equipped with spears and shields for the charge. The Javelin-Armed cavalry can do the same thing the Zulus do with footmen, only faster and over a wider bit of terrain. The Heavy Cavalry can shatter whole formations in a direct charge, and if they get a flank can shatter a whole wing.

    5) Hannibal Barca. A general that loves envelopments, and is going to see the classic Zulu battle doctrine for what it is. He's going to use his mobile units to keep the Zulus protecting a flank and not assailing his, and his infantry is going to form up either in terrain or in formation to deny a flank (or fill that flank with slingers and javelin throwers to give the Zulus a devil of a time).
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    • #3
      I agree. The Zulus don't posess firearms. Hannibal has cavalry, armor, better weapons, elephants, slingers. I probably should gove the Zulus a 3-1 advantage,
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      • #4
        This is pre-Zama, so Hannibal cannot be beaten.
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        • #5
          Tac is correct on everything,
          Hannibal is better.

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          • #6
            You guys are forgetting the first rule of ACG Alternate Timelines..
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
              You guys are forgetting the first rule of ACG Alternate Timelines..
              Aye. Poor bloody Hannibal will never know what hit him.
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              • #8
                Lol. We'll give the Zulu's an at least 2-1 advantage.
                First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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                • #9
                  Sorry...the rule:

                  Zulus versus anything short of the death star.....zulus win....
                  Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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                  • #10
                    Hoe did they beat the sun crsuher?
                    First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
                      Hoe did they beat the sun crsuher?
                      Horns, chest, and loins. How else?
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                      • #12
                        That wouldn't work to well on the ship. It just goes for the solar systems sun.
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                        • #13
                          Lance, since you've been here only 2 weeks I understand you were making a serious thread, but for the past 2 or 3 years on this board the Zulus have become a bit of a meme. They represent the most invincible army in all of the universe and there is nothing they can't overcome.

                          Basically on this board, especially in this subforum when a heated argument arises, or a ridiculous what if is proposed you just have to mention Zulus to lighten the mood. I don't think they can ever be discussed seriously here any more.
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                          • #14
                            Oh well sounds nice. The spaceships thing I was joking on though if you didn't notice .
                            First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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                            • #15
                              We noticed. Thanks for joking.

                              Like he said, anytime a what if gets out of hand, Zulus are normally mentioned. Or Mongols. But normally Zulus. Like when the thread that shall never again be named lest it arise from the depths to which it was placed got ridiculous....Zulus. And an amphibious landing from submarines, but mostly Zulus.
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