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  • #31
    Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
    Wars of conquest?

    Japan does this and their assets are frozen, sanctions are imposed until their government leadership and military leadership are arrested and tried, more than likely at the Hague, unless it is decided the Japanese can handle it since they would be breaking one of the cornerstones of their own constitution. Oh and following that the Japanese can lose all hope of ever reacquiring any of those islands.
    What hope of reacquiring them ShAA has stated that “The islands have to be kept by all means. No international stigma will outweigh the ignominy of losing the islands.”
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Tsar View Post
      What hope of reacquiring them ShAA has stated that “The islands have to be kept by all means. No international stigma will outweigh the ignominy of losing the islands.”
      Theoretically - VERY theoretically - there might be a sort of an Alaska-style deal, because the issue is not so much about the value of these islands but in the concept of not allowing anyone to "tread on Russia" even in the slightest. But I really doubt the Japanese might ever offer anything on this scale, and even if such negotiations ever start, they will be massively booed by the public on both sides.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by ShAA View Post
        Theoretically - VERY theoretically - there might be a sort of an Alaska-style deal, because the issue is not so much about the value of these islands but in the concept of not allowing anyone to "tread on Russia" even in the slightest. But I really doubt the Japanese might ever offer anything on this scale, and even if such negotiations ever start, they will be massively booed by the public on both sides.
        Exactly, there is always a slight diplomatic chance. But once Japan decides to (illegally) use force to obtain a result, that chance is gone forever.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
          Exactly, there is always a slight diplomatic chance. But once Japan decides to (illegally) use force to obtain a result, that chance is gone forever.
          Japans arguement would be defending it territory which is being occupied so it not a war of conquest.

          how many US bases are there in Japan I thought there was only 3

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          • #35
            Originally posted by craven View Post
            Japans arguement would be defending it territory which is being occupied so it not a war of conquest.

            how many US bases are there in Japan I thought there was only 3

            There are 85 military bases operated by the US in Japan and Okinawa with a total acreage of about 77,000 acres.

            They range from major facilities like Yokosuka Naval Base and and Yokota Air Base to single antenna sites.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by craven View Post
              Japans arguement would be defending it territory which is being occupied so it not a war of conquest.
              Again refer to their constitution.

              Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
                Again refer to their constitution.

                Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes
                How many counties follow their constitutions without interpreting them as they wish?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Tsar View Post
                  How many counties follow their constitutions without interpreting them as they wish?
                  In this matter Japan does, and will. In no way would this be positive for Japan anyways. Control of those islands isn't worth the major economic, political, and diplomatic damage that would happen. Russia wouldn't have to fire a single shot and Japan would be hurting.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
                    In this matter Japan does, and will. In no way would this be positive for Japan anyways. Control of those islands isn't worth the major economic, political, and diplomatic damage that would happen. Russia wouldn't have to fire a single shot and Japan would be hurting.
                    So how does Japan explain those peace keeping missions that they have under taken? Seems like violence has a good chance of breaking out there.
                    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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