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    is anyone else out there intrigued by this mans story? ive never been able to come across a satisfactory reason for his life long imprisonment.men that i would consider far worse war time threats[albert speer]were not imprisoned for life.could he have known something that the british wanted no one else to know?the whole story smells of conspiracy,and intrigue.has anyone uncovered antthing?
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    I've also been intrigued about the Rudolph Hess story too. Starting with the fact that some people claim that it wasn't Hess at all who was imprisoned at Spandau. The stories I've heard that it was a luftwaffe? capt. named Alfred Horn. The book I read some of this stuff in was written by a Dr ??? Who claims to have worked on Hess. I remember one point he tried to make that it wasn't really Hess was the fact that Hess recieved a chest wound in WW1. They used very high powered rifles back then that you would think would leave quite a scar no matter how many years later you looked. Apparently the man he examined in Spandau showed no such scar tissue. I think the book was called "The Murder Of Rudolph Hess" I remember I was in the army when I read it so its at least 20 some odd years old. Anybody else have anything???? Good subject

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    • #3
      The Russians seemed to be the ones preventing him from being released if I remember correctly. He was held under the four power sharing arraingement in Berlin. Other prisoners from Spandau were released, but the Russians would not allow Hess to be freened.

      There was talk of the Russians being afraid of what Hess knew and would talk about...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RetPara
        The Russians seemed to be the ones preventing him from being released if I remember correctly. He was held under the four power sharing arraingement in Berlin. Other prisoners from Spandau were released, but the Russians would not allow Hess to be freened.

        There was talk of the Russians being afraid of what Hess knew and would talk about...
        I have read the same thing in several sources. Apparently every time his name came up the Russians said no.

        As regards Hess, I just always figured he was a nut case.:crazy:
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        • #5
          What was his flight to Scotland all about, anyway?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by last_cav1971
            What was his flight to Scotland all about, anyway?
            It was a shopping trip that went horribly wrong. They'd run out of Whiskey.

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            • #7
              Re: rudolph hess

              Originally posted by terry patterson
              is anyone else out there intrigued by this mans story? ive never been able to come across a satisfactory reason for his life long imprisonment.men that i would consider far worse war time threats[albert speer]were not imprisoned for life.could he have known something that the british wanted no one else to know?the whole story smells of conspiracy,and intrigue.has anyone uncovered antthing?
              My understanding is that despite his relatively early (and odd) flight to England, since he was Hitler's number two at the time, and since he (again, to my knowledge) did not renounce Nazism, he was considered to have been a party to anything occuring as from the day of his flight. If I recall, he lived as comfortably as he could in a prison, especially once he became the only inmate - Spandau Prison was closed (and presumably demolished) upon Hess' death.
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              • #8
                Years ago,Id seen a programme on the subject,This was around 1990 so I dont remember all the details:

                1) The aforementioned WW1 scars which "disappeared" while in Spandau.

                2)Hess,or Horn-take your pick-Left from German occupied Holland.
                the flight number was recorded by ground control apon takeoff.
                However,The pictures taken at the crash site show a different number on the wreckage.

                3)Hess was an experenced pilot. The fellow who was flying the plane was flying very low to the ground. Too low to use the terrain as a navigational tool.

                4) Hess suffered from crippling arthritis his last years. Yest somehow,He managed to get his arms above his head to put a noose around his neck.

                Also,I feel his dementia was a sham. If you ever see footage of the Nuremburg trials,At one point the prosicution brings out a chart that shows that Hess was "number 2" At this point,Goering throws a fit claiming that He was number 2. In the background,Hess can be seen laughing at Goering.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Doctor Sinister
                  It was a shopping trip that went horribly wrong. They'd run out of Whiskey.

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                  yes, that's it! He was on his way to the famed Laphroaig Distillery for a case of "highland kilt warmer"....
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                  • #10
                    Yes It was the Russians....

                    I served 2 years in Berlin, and while I never was part of the guard details sent to Spandau (they were always selected from one the three Infantry Battalions) I did have friends in the Infantry. They would always bitch about the Soviets not allowing Hess to go free....so that they wouldn't have to pull guard. We were also briefed on the subject once and told that for some reason the Soviets didn't want Hess released.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Re: rudolph hess

                      Originally posted by hogdriver
                      My understanding is that despite his relatively early (and odd) flight to England, since he was Hitler's number two at the time, ....
                      Although he was still "Deputy Fuehrer" (what a title), Goering was named heir to the Fuehrership prior to Hess's flight. Some credit his non-selection as heir to be a cause or contributing factor to his departure.
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                      • #12
                        I understand that many close to Hitler say there was no way it could have been contrived by the Fuhrer based on his reaction when he ehard the news.
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                        • #13
                          what could he have known that so frightened the soviets?
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                          • #14
                            Pardon my ignorance, but why couldn't Hess be interviewed by the Brits or Americans? Was the due to the four-power agreement mentioned in the earlier post; Soviets wouldn't allow interviews with this man?


                            and in a related story...I recall picking up a newspaper at the newstand and reading the left margin headline, "Rudolf Hess riots at Spandau Prison" and the article goes on about Rudolf Hess running down the corridors rioting, setting fires, barricading, etc. Turned out it was a newspaper parody printed to look like the NY Times with "phony" articles, ads, etc.! ha ha
                            darn funny
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