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    I came across a quote of Otto Carious talking about his experience serving on Jagdtigers. It seems he wasn't too happy with the new mount. One thing he said was that the gun fell out of alingment everytime the vechicle was driven off road. I found that interesting, could anyone explain why that would be? Also, on tanks in general, how often did those travellocks have to be used anyways?

    Thanks.

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    The gun weighed about 7 tons. The gun mantle added about another two. All that mass caused the elevation and training gearing to wear or break fairly quickly when the tank was operating off road, and even on road in many cases, and the travel lock (which had to be manually released from outside the tank by the crew) wasn't being used, which was the norm when combat was expected. This caused the elevation and traverse to get slop in them, and be misaligned with the gunsight.

    With the JadgTiger, the travel lock was supposed to be used as often as possible and released at the last possible minute before entering combat. Of course, that was rarely the case.

    Other issues included the tracks wearing out fairly quickly leading to lots of repairs. The use of the Porsche suspension on a few Jadgtiger proved that it was overloaded and the bogie units frequently broke off as a result. The transmission was also over-stressed and frequently broke down. This required the removal of the top of the fighting compartment, then the gun and mantle, then the roof of the driver's compartment, then the interior of that compartment to get at the transmission. To take one out and replace it could take a week or more and tied up most of a battalion's repair assets.

    Here's a Jadgtiger with the travel lock in place:

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      Mindboggling how anyone could've thought building this kind of tank could've been a worthwhile. It used the same engine and transmission as the Tiger 1, which were already strained in that tank, and repairs are very complicated and time-consuming.

      ​​​​​Isn't this tank proof there were serious dysfunction in the German panzer-development?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by oldngruff View Post
        Mindboggling how anyone could've thought building this kind of tank could've been a worthwhile. It used the same engine and transmission as the Tiger 1, which were already strained in that tank, and repairs are very complicated and time-consuming.

        ​​​​​Isn't this tank proof there were serious dysfunction in the German panzer-development?
        Proof that somewhere in the hierarchy there was an obsession with size at the expense of practicality and actual needs
        Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
        Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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        • #5
          I think at some point in late 1944, the Nazis adjusted their goals from conquering the world to conquering the post-war plastic model kit market.
          "Looting would not be tolerated within the Division, unless organised with the knowledge of C.O.'s on a unit basis."
          - 15/19 Hussars War Diary, 18th March 1945

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          • #6
            "Maybe we cannot win, but we can try to look cool while loosing...."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cbo View Post
              "Maybe we cannot win, but we can try to look cool while loosing...."
              Well if ODing on steroids is a cool look then chacon son gout
              Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
              Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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