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  • Remember Panther found in Ukraine?

    http://www.panther1944.de/Forum/view...?t=709&start=0

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    That's certainly neat, but I have to wonder sometimes, is it worth it to restore a tank if only a small portion is actually the original vehicle?

    Would it not be simpler and easier to just use the intact parts as physical reference and then just assemble a whole new vehicle if the plan is to have a life size representative copy?
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      Wow! Nice site and great pictures of that panther! I hope they are soon able to repair and get that big cat up and running!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Paul Maud'dib View Post
        That's certainly neat, but I have to wonder sometimes, is it worth it to restore a tank if only a small portion is actually the original vehicle?

        Would it not be simpler and easier to just use the intact parts as physical reference and then just assemble a whole new vehicle if the plan is to have a life size representative copy?
        I believe what you see is what you get! It's just for display purposes and not for restoration (so far, that is). Does anyone know anything different??

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Paul Maud'dib View Post
          That's certainly neat, but I have to wonder sometimes, is it worth it to restore a tank if only a small portion is actually the original vehicle?

          Would it not be simpler and easier to just use the intact parts as physical reference and then just assemble a whole new vehicle if the plan is to have a life size representative copy?
          Given whats left of it...You are right Paul...

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          I believe what you see is what you get! It's just for display purposes and not for restoration (so far, that is). Does anyone know anything different??
          And I hope you are right Tom.

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          • #6
            Diffently a internal explosion, maybe by the crew so it wouldn't fall in enemy hands?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paul Maud'dib View Post
              That's certainly neat, but I have to wonder sometimes, is it worth it to restore a tank if only a small portion is actually the original vehicle?

              Would it not be simpler and easier to just use the intact parts as physical reference and then just assemble a whole new vehicle if the plan is to have a life size representative copy?
              No, because there is a difference between an actual piece of history, and a replica. The replica represents what was, whereas the actual item was.
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              • #8
                cyberia

                Good point there, one that rings true! Now if we were looking at a movie site or something like that, P.M. would be right on, but this is a collectors tank, restored or not, right? Tom D?

                Cheers

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cyberia View Post
                  No, because there is a difference between an actual piece of history, and a replica. The replica represents what was, whereas the actual item was.
                  I agree with what you are saying but if only a small part of the running machine is real, is it right to pass it off as the real thing? I think better to stick this in a museum as is and if people want to see one running then build a replica!
                  Wolster

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wolster View Post
                    I agree with what you are saying but if only a small part of the running machine is real, is it right to pass it off as the real thing? I think better to stick this in a museum as is and if people want to see one running then build a replica!
                    No, passing off any heavily restored vehicle as the real thing would be wrong, but as a representative piece on display is whole other matter. Restorable Panthers are a rare find and from what I can see from the photos there is much of the original tank remaining. All one side, most of the upper hull, deck and turret. A prime candidate as restored machine.

                    Below is a link to another restored Panther and what was involved, as well as video of a T-34, captured and used by the Germans, being pulled from a Russian lake.

                    http://www.twenot.nl/panther.htm

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