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    We've got a thread for overrated battles, but what battle do you think is under appreciated? Right off hand I can think of 4 battles that while known (2 of them especially so) the results are less recognized beyond the surface result know by everybody. I'll toss them out here, but I'd like to hear YOUR opinion of the most underrated battle(s) of WWII.

    • Kokoda Trail
    • Battle of the Bismarck Sea
    • Guadalcanal
    • Battle of the Coral Sea


    Each of these battles in the SWPA of operations stopped and then turned back the Japanese threat to Australia and the supply lines from the US to Australia.
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    Convoy ONS-5
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    • #3
      Originally posted by globetrotter View Post
      Convoy ONS-5
      Very good one. I won't say it broke the back of the U-boat Waffe, but it did put a very big dent in it. And confirmed the fact the Allies' convoy escorts had learned their lesson well. Was Wake-Walker in charge of the escort there?
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      • #4
        Tikhvin counteroffensive in Dec 1941. It is very heavily overshadowed by the Moscow counteroffesive which took place at the same time half thousand kilometers to the south. The German hopes of linking up with the Finns were finally buried and with the liberation of Tikhvin-Volkhov railway the Road of Life grew from a slow trickle of supplies into an ever growing stream.
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        • #5
          Anzio!
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          My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
          As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
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          • #6
            Battle of France. If one didn't know better, it is often from numerous sources possible to come away with the impression no actual fighting occurred...

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            • #7
              I believe Mussolini's invasion of Egypt in Sept. 1940 was the most underrated battle of the war, or operation rather. If Mussolini would have held a defensive line instead of an invasion he might have held the British off for some time. Being that they invaded Egypt and were not ready to repulse a British offensive, they were caught off-guard during the British offensive.

              Had they held out in NA until, not requiring German reinforcements taken away from Barbarossa which might have made Barbarossa a closer fight during 1941.

              If the Italians waited for German reinforcements and then launched an offensive, the outcome of NA might have been closer to a draw, depending how much Hitler wanted to focus on NA and focusing on logistics.

              Another alternative, if Mussolini would have abandoned NA altogether and not launch an offensive the war may have seen a different outcome.

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              • #8
                I also think the Manchouko and Soviet border disputes in 1939 are way underrated. Being that Japan got the worst of the conflicts, they had shown to the Japanese that they needed to sign an armistice with the Soviets, ending the possibility of a two front war for Russia.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 45Colt View Post
                  I believe Mussolini's invasion of Egypt in Sept. 1940 was the most underrated battle of the war, or operation rather. If Mussolini would have held a defensive line instead of an invasion he might have held the British off for some time. Being that they invaded Egypt and were not ready to repulse a British offensive, they were caught off-guard during the British offensive.

                  Had they held out in NA until, not requiring German reinforcements taken away from Barbarossa which might have made Barbarossa a closer fight during 1941.

                  If the Italians waited for German reinforcements and then launched an offensive, the outcome of NA might have been closer to a draw, depending how much Hitler wanted to focus on NA and focusing on logistics.

                  Another alternative, if Mussolini would have abandoned NA altogether and not launch an offensive the war may have seen a different outcome.
                  Here we go again, What if?What if?What if? The whole thing and most important thing in war is, that it did not!!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RichardS View Post
                    We've got a thread for overrated battles, but what battle do you think is under appreciated? Right off hand I can think of 4 battles that while known (2 of them especially so) the results are less recognized beyond the surface result know by everybody. I'll toss them out here, but I'd like to hear YOUR opinion of the most underrated battle(s) of WWII.

                    • Kokoda Trail
                    • Battle of the Bismarck Sea
                    • Guadalcanal
                    • Battle of the Coral Sea


                    Each of these battles in the SWPA of operations stopped and then turned back the Japanese threat to Australia and the supply lines from the US to Australia.
                    Those battles were well known to all Australians at the time, especially in view of other events taking place in the region, including the extensive and long lasting bombing of Darwin, and the attack on Sydney Harbour by the Japanese midget subs(my mum lived quite close to the Harbour - she could see and hear the gunfire and explosions and can still relate the events that happened that night very clearly). Unfortunately today, with the exception of Kokoda, most Australians have no idea about any of these things.

                    Even though you live on the other side of the world, and was born a long time after these events, have some REP for knowing about them.
                    Last edited by At ease; 14 Jun 10, 00:00.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by lcm1 View Post
                      Here we go again, What if?What if?What if? The whole thing and most important thing in war is, that it did not!!
                      That's why its underrated Aussie. What happened if the battle would have never taken place or would have had a different outcome determines its importance.
                      Last edited by 45Colt; 14 Jun 10, 00:27.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RichardS View Post
                        We've got a thread for overrated battles, but what battle do you think is under appreciated? Right off hand I can think of 4 battles that while known (2 of them especially so) the results are less recognized beyond the surface result know by everybody. I'll toss them out here, but I'd like to hear YOUR opinion of the most underrated battle(s) of WWII.

                        • Kokoda Trail
                        • Battle of the Bismarck Sea
                        • Guadalcanal
                        • Battle of the Coral Sea


                        Each of these battles in the SWPA of operations stopped and then turned back the Japanese threat to Australia and the supply lines from the US to Australia.
                        Well speaking from personal experience I must put in a word for the taking of Caen, I know that we had the might of two Airforces centered on it, but for the 'Plods' on the ground it was a 'Right Stinker' both sides fighting tooth and nail and in the early stages killing indiscriminately anything that moved in enemy uniform, wounded and unwounded alike.Yet apart from the routine official details of the fighting and outcome, is past over comparatively lightly.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lcm1 View Post
                          Well speaking from personal experience I must put in a word for the taking of Caen, I know that we had the might of two Airforces centered on it, but for the 'Plods' on the ground it was a 'Right Stinker' both sides fighting tooth and nail and in the early stages killing indiscriminately anything that moved in enemy uniform, wounded and unwounded alike.Yet apart from the routine official details of the fighting and outcome, is past over comparatively lightly.
                          Caen might have slowed down the Gents but it did nothing to slow down the American advance. The Americans were pushing south at quick speed and cutting off the Cherbourg peninsula regardless of Caen or not. It was just a matter of time regardless of the results of Caen, Caen would have been surrounded if it didn't fall. Just a little hiccup this one.

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                          • #14
                            Caen another excuse for speed.... or the lack of.

                            Originally posted by 45Colt View Post
                            Caen might have slowed down the Gents but it did nothing to slow down the American advance. The Americans were pushing south at quick speed and cutting off the Cherbourg peninsula regardless of Caen or not. It was just a matter of time regardless of the results of Caen, Caen would have been surrounded if it didn't fall. Just a little hiccup this one.
                            My worst jump story:
                            My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                            As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                            No lie.

                            ~
                            "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
                            -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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                            • #15
                              The battle of Crete, especially the disastrous Fallschirmjäger landings.

                              Hitler was so shaken and dispirited by the German paratroop losses the Luftwaffe paratroop arm was never the same again because the German leadership lost faith in large airborne operations for fear of casualties sustained immediately upon landing.

                              From then on out, as far as I know, Luftwaffe Fallschirmjäger infantry was used as lorried heavy infantry which was a real waste of their potential as a shock force.

                              Last edited by MonsterZero; 14 Jun 10, 07:03.

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