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    Interview with Hermann Neumann

    TANK-BUSTING STUKA PILOT

    http://www.tarrif.net/wwii/interview...nn_neumann.htm

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    "Why does someone want to drive a Harley Davidson? The Stuka was a myth in the Luftwaffe at this time. I did not was to be a C pilot flying a bomber. To me that was too much like a bus driver. Some people like to drive a bus and some people like to drive a crash car. The Stuka was a crash car. It had a feeling of something special."



    That was a good read. Thanks for the find.
    Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the cheesemakers

    That's right bitches. I'm blessed!

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    • #3
      Nice find. It was interesting to read a piece about a tankbusting Stuka pilot who is not Hans Rudel. It was a nice change.

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      • #4
        Hermann Neumann

        Hermann was my great uncle. He passed away, but had immigrated to the United States and settled down near Lorain Ohio. In the article at the end, the sister he mentions sponsoring him, was my grandmother who had immigrated to the United States shortly before the outbreak of war.

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        • #5
          There was a Russian outfit called Stalin's Disciples. They were students from universities who had sworn to fight for Stalin.
          I love these Baron Munchausen stories of German vets There's never been such unit, and "swearing to fight for Stalin" is also purely German propaganda BS - the military oath was to defend the Socialist Fatherland, there was no word about Stalin in it.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by carter22 View Post
            Hermann was my great uncle. He passed away, but had immigrated to the United States and settled down near Lorain Ohio. In the article at the end, the sister he mentions sponsoring him, was my grandmother who had immigrated to the United States shortly before the outbreak of war.
            Thanks for restarting this thread.

            I had not seen it before, and it contains much worthwhile information.

            Thank you, and welcome to ACG.
            "It's like shooting rats in a barrel."
            "You'll be in a barrel if you don't watch out for the fighters!"

            "Talking about airplanes is a very pleasant mental disease."
            Sergei(son of Igor) Sikorsky, 'AOPA Pilot' magazine February 2003.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ShAA View Post
              I love these Baron Munchausen stories of German vets There's never been such unit, and "swearing to fight for Stalin" is also purely German propaganda BS - the military oath was to defend the Socialist Fatherland, there was no word about Stalin in it.
              His understanding of the situation was possibly different, as German soldiers took a personal oath to Hitler, not to Germany, and may have been under the genuine impression that that is how it was done elsewhere.

              As he said himself in the article, he was a sergeant, not as politically aware as some others were(are), and almost certainly not cognizant of the minutia of the Soviet soldiers code.
              Last edited by At ease; 06 Mar 11, 06:24.
              "It's like shooting rats in a barrel."
              "You'll be in a barrel if you don't watch out for the fighters!"

              "Talking about airplanes is a very pleasant mental disease."
              Sergei(son of Igor) Sikorsky, 'AOPA Pilot' magazine February 2003.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by At ease View Post
                His understanding of the situation was possibly different, as German soldiers took a personal oath to Hitler, not to Germany.

                As he said himself in the article, he was a sergeant, not as politically aware as some others were(are), and almost certainly not cognizant of the minutia of the Soviet soldiers code.
                Normally people don't talk of what they don't know, do they? Nevertheless, he made a bold assertion which was totally Goebbels stuff.

                Loved his unrepentant "we knew what we fought for" tone too, but this is common for the Germans who fought in the East and escaped their well-deserved workout in Siberia by surrendering to the Allies.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                  Normally people don't talk of what they don't know, do they? Nevertheless, he made a bold assertion which was totally Goebbels stuff.

                  Loved his unrepentant "we knew what we fought for" tone too, but this is common for the Germans who fought in the East and escaped their well-deserved workout in Siberia by surrendering to the Allies.
                  Well, as I said before, his comment was based on a frame of reference that was familiar to him.

                  I am not sure that a combat pilot, not engaged in any way with any activity carried out by the Einsatzgruppen , should qualify for a "workout".
                  "It's like shooting rats in a barrel."
                  "You'll be in a barrel if you don't watch out for the fighters!"

                  "Talking about airplanes is a very pleasant mental disease."
                  Sergei(son of Igor) Sikorsky, 'AOPA Pilot' magazine February 2003.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by At ease View Post
                    I am not sure that a combat pilot, not engaged in any way with any activity carried out by the Einsatzgruppen , should qualify for a "workout".
                    The Einsatzgruppen were not the only perpetrators of war crimes - this is a post-war myth. Regular Wehrmacht units summarily executed civilians and took part in deliberate and aimed bombing and shelling of schools and hospitals. The Luftwaffe sank hospital ships despite seeing the Red Cross markings on them, and so on.

                    I'm not accusing this particular person of any particular crime, but working a few years to restore the destruction he inflicted during the invasion would be more justified than chilling out in the States and telling how he fought against evil Stalin for Deutschland.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                      The Einsatzgruppen were not the only perpetrators of war crimes - this is a post-war myth. Regular Wehrmacht units summarily executed civilians and took part in deliberate and aimed bombing and shelling of schools and hospitals. The Luftwaffe sank hospital ships despite seeing the Red Cross markings on them, and so on.

                      I'm not accusing this particular person of any particular crime, but working a few years to restore the destruction he inflicted during the invasion would be more justified than chilling out in the States and telling how he fought against evil Stalin for Deutschland.
                      I quite willingly accept that war crimes were not restricted to the Einsatzgruppen.

                      However, don't you think that justice would be better served by identifying those actually involved in perpetrating such acts and taking the appropriate measures against them personally, rather than also putting away those not having any involvement at all with such acts?

                      Mr. Neumann would not necessarily be seen to be involved in the acts that you referred to, so why should he be punished for them?
                      "It's like shooting rats in a barrel."
                      "You'll be in a barrel if you don't watch out for the fighters!"

                      "Talking about airplanes is a very pleasant mental disease."
                      Sergei(son of Igor) Sikorsky, 'AOPA Pilot' magazine February 2003.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by At ease View Post
                        However, don't you think that justice would be better served by identifying those actually involved in perpetrating such acts and taking the appropriate measures against them personally, rather than also putting away those not having any involvement at all with such acts?
                        There's a narrow line between those who aimed guns and those who loaded shells. The degree of responsibility is different, as is the punishment - from a few years of forced labour to the gallows, but the responsibility is still there.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                          There's a narrow line between those who aimed guns and those who loaded shells. The degree of responsibility is different, as is the punishment - from a few years of forced labour to the gallows, but the responsibility is still there.
                          Or 10 years forced labour(amongst other punishments) for Hartmann who, I suggest, would not be guilty at all of any of the acts that you speak of.

                          Neither was Neumann.
                          Last edited by At ease; 06 Mar 11, 08:28.
                          "It's like shooting rats in a barrel."
                          "You'll be in a barrel if you don't watch out for the fighters!"

                          "Talking about airplanes is a very pleasant mental disease."
                          Sergei(son of Igor) Sikorsky, 'AOPA Pilot' magazine February 2003.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by At ease View Post
                            Or 10 years forced labour(amongst other punishments) for Hartmann who, I suggest, would not be guilty at all of any of the acts that you speak of.
                            Hartmann was indeed falsely accused of different war crimes. I would be the last to say the Soviet justice sytem was perfect. Still people like Rudel richly deserved this term.
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                            Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                              Hartmann was indeed falsely accused of different war crimes. I would be the last to say the Soviet justice sytem was perfect. Still people like Rudel richly deserved this term.
                              I don't know that Rudel would be either.

                              Wasn't he too busy over the battlefield itself, with little time or reason to be taking out less tactically valuable targets such as hospitals or hospital ships?
                              "It's like shooting rats in a barrel."
                              "You'll be in a barrel if you don't watch out for the fighters!"

                              "Talking about airplanes is a very pleasant mental disease."
                              Sergei(son of Igor) Sikorsky, 'AOPA Pilot' magazine February 2003.

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