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    I'm in the middle of reading Beevor's Arnhem and am also building some miniatures for wargaming. I was wondering if anybody could help me answer some questions regarding the British equipment carried into battle and platoon organization.

    Do you imagine most officers still would have carried their revolvers rather than newly issued automatic pistols?
    Did infantry platoons frequently carry all three of their 2inch mortars?
    How were platoons organized in the field? For instance, on a patrol, where would all the sections deployed?




  • #2
    And how many PIATs ?
    "I dogmatise and am contradicted, and in this conflict of opinions and sentiments I find delight".
    Samuel Johnson.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BELGRAVE View Post
      And how many PIATs ?
      Hmm my impression was that every platoon was allocated at least one by the company. What do you think?

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      • #4
        Here's a starting point...

        https://www.battleorder.org/uk-paras-1944

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        As regards pistols, the Webley '38 revolver is a truly awful weapon. Accuracy wise, it's bad enough shooting the thing single action, double action you'd do more damage throwing the bloody thing at Jerry. In the main the '38s issued to the Airborne had to be fired double action as there was no spur on the trigger to cock it. A 9mm Browning automatic was better, a Colt .45 auto, obtained by fair means or foul, a prize to be coveted!
        As regards tackle like PIATs, one author asked Johnny Frost what changes he would have made to his plans if he'd known how many armoured vehicles the enemy would be able to rustle up at the Bridge. He replied...

        "I'd have left our 3" mortars behind and taken more PIATs."


        The long toll of the brave
        Is not lost in darkness
        Over the fruitful earth
        And athwart the seas
        Hath passed the light of noble deeds
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        • #5
          Thanks. I already had that looked up but appreciate the help. Also didn't know that about the '38. Makes me wonder why they didn't just stick with the .455.


          Are you sure he said 3" instead of 2"?

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          • #6
            Certain, you'll have read how many blokes are in a Parachute Battalion's 3" Mortars, divide that by two and it's a lot of PIAT crews!
            No problem with the 2" mortar, you could carry the Para version strapped to yer small pack.

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            Last edited by Von Richter; 28 Jun 20, 17:04.
            The long toll of the brave
            Is not lost in darkness
            Over the fruitful earth
            And athwart the seas
            Hath passed the light of noble deeds
            Unquenchable forever.

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            • #7
              Don't forget that their Sten-guns were adapted to take the slings and bayonets of the Mk IV rifle - about the only time the Sten carried a bayonet.
              Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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              • #8
                Have to laugh about that, Paratroopers are light infantry...
                so they gave 'em the heaviest version of the Sten ever made!

                The long toll of the brave
                Is not lost in darkness
                Over the fruitful earth
                And athwart the seas
                Hath passed the light of noble deeds
                Unquenchable forever.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Von Richter View Post
                  Certain, you'll have read how many blokes are in a Parachute Battalion's 3" Mortars, divide that by two and it's a lot of PIAT crews!
                  No problem with the 2" mortar, you could carry the Para version strapped to yer small pack.

                  9bee15a2ea5de589e3958f02661290ee.jpg

                  Where did you find this picture? Brilliant, very helpful.

                  Also I think this https://toofatlardies.co.uk/forum/vi...p?f=35&t=10461 answers my question as to how platoons were deployed in combat.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Swanbridge View Post

                    Hmm my impression was that every platoon was allocated at least one by the company. What do you think?
                    I don't know, hence my question.
                    Monstrous weapons,quite outlandish. Comparable to the Bazooka, perhaps but far more difficult to handle.
                    "I dogmatise and am contradicted, and in this conflict of opinions and sentiments I find delight".
                    Samuel Johnson.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Swanbridge View Post

                      Where did you find this picture? Brilliant, very helpful.

                      Also I think this https://toofatlardies.co.uk/forum/vi...p?f=35&t=10461 answers my question as to how platoons were deployed in combat.
                      The piccy is in this book, if memory serves. You'll not go far wrong with the Lardies, both of them have a keen interest in the British Airborne.

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                      The long toll of the brave
                      Is not lost in darkness
                      Over the fruitful earth
                      And athwart the seas
                      Hath passed the light of noble deeds
                      Unquenchable forever.

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                      • #12
                        "Lardies ? I thought that they were cakes.
                        "I dogmatise and am contradicted, and in this conflict of opinions and sentiments I find delight".
                        Samuel Johnson.

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