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  • The Lady Lex

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...602?page=0%2C2
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

  • #2
    Hard to find a copy of "Queen of the flat-tops" have to borrow a copy from Archive.org

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    • #3
      The old movie "Task Force" with Gary Cooper uses the USS Saratoga, the Lady Lex's sister ship in a lot of scenes.

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      • #4
        Really an amazing marvel in her day. In the movie Task Force you come up to the USS Saratoga moored to pier at car level in maybe San Francisco harbor, it looks so huge. I can't imagine what I would have thought in 1929.

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        I think this is after her last refit you can see the added AA armament? No I think this is in 1941, I believe she had another refit before the Battle of the Coral Sea.

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        Last edited by OttoHarkaman; 16 Jul 19, 18:09.

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        • #5
          Lexington lost her 8" guns and turrets prior to Coral Sea. They had not been replaced with 5"/38 twin turrets which were scheduled for her refit after Coral Sea.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            Lexington lost her 8" guns and turrets prior to Coral Sea. They had not been replaced with 5"/38 twin turrets which were scheduled for her refit after Coral Sea.
            In March 1942, Lexington's eight-inch turrets were removed at Pearl Harbor and replaced by seven quadruple 1.1-inch gun mounts. In addition 22 Oerlikon 20 mm cannon were installed, six in a new platform at the base of the funnel, 12 in the positions formerly occupied by the ship's boats in the sides of the hull, two at the stern, and a pair on the aft control top. When the ship was sunk in May 1942, her armament consisted of 12 five-inch, 12 quadruple 1.1-inch, 22 Oerlikon cannon, and at least two dozen .50-caliber machine guns.[26]
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Lexington_(CV-2)

            I think this is the last picture of the USS Lexington before fires started out on her, yes you can see all the turrets have been removed.
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            • #7
              Both the Saratoga's and Lexington's 8" turrets were emplaced as coast defense batteries on Oahu.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OttoHarkaman View Post
                Hard to find a copy of "Queen of the flat-tops" have to borrow a copy from Archive.org

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                Really enjoying this book! Stanley Johnston was the press correspondent on board the USS Lexington during the Battle of the Coral sea.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                  Both the Saratoga's and Lexington's 8" turrets were emplaced as coast defense batteries on Oahu.
                  I was wondering what happened to them!

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                  Makes you appreciate how big these guns were, they didn't look so big on the ship.

                  Last edited by OttoHarkaman; 18 Jul 19, 06:28.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                    Both the Saratoga's and Lexington's 8" turrets were emplaced as coast defense batteries on Oahu.
                    good post, IIRC, the 8" rifles were found to damage the flight deck if fired to port ( over the deck) and had only a limited radius of fire to starboard.
                    Escort vessels were de rigeur for carrier cruises.

                    I am curious if the Japanese would have attempted the Midway invasion if the Lexington had survived? They would have had two fleet carriers under repair, plus the loss of a light carrier...
                    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                      good post, IIRC, the 8" rifles were found to damage the flight deck if fired to port ( over the deck) and had only a limited radius of fire to starboard.
                      E.
                      Interesting given that cross deck fire had been identified as a no no by HMAS Australia by the time of the First Word War
                      Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                      Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                      • #12
                        I was particularly interested in the removal of the turrets later on because a 1,000 pound Japanese bomb skimmed the flight deck a few feet ahead of the bridge, barely cleared the starboard rail and exploded in the sea alongside us. Its explosion shook the Lexington and drenched all of us on the bridge with enormous column of seawater. That bomb, had the turrets been retained, would have struck flush on the top of the forward barbette and probably would have destroyed the island, the entire operating center of the ship and, incidentally, me.
                        Stanley Johnston "Queen of the Flat-tops"

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                        • #13
                          I was wondering about Japanese Intelligence before the war, this was an interesting entry in Stanley Johnston "Queen of the Flat-tops" quoting E.E. Wilson, an early naval aviation pioneer.

                          Everywhere our carriers went in the Pacific, their tracks were dogged by Japanese tankers, one of which always seemed to be conveniently taking oil. From San Pedro everywhere the fleet went there were always swarms of Japanese fishing vessels.
                          The IJN used ships such as the Iroo that cruised off the West Coast of the United States in the late 1930s and intercepted American Navy communications
                          http://armchairgeneral.com/japanese-...rld-war-ii.htm


                          Last edited by OttoHarkaman; 18 Jul 19, 20:53.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OttoHarkaman View Post
                            Stanley Johnston "Queen of the Flat-tops"
                            Hullo another 'Oldie' I salute you Sir!!
                            'By Horse by Tram'.


                            I was in when they needed 'em,not feeded 'em.
                            " Youuu 'Orrible Lot!"

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                            • #15
                              Picture of her turrets being removed, from Warship Pictorial 11 2001

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