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    My grandfather filled out a draft registration card at the age of 59.
    Would he have been likely to have served?

    If so, could I fill out a SF180 when I only would have his name, birth date and birth city for the form?

  • #2
    Pretty unlikely he would have been accepted-you might as well try, see what happens.
    Somebody with facts might step up.
    I keep up with some vet boards, you'd be amazed at some of the guys trying to get back in. We early baby boomers are going into the ageing process kicking and screaming.

    Early 40's is tops now.

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    • #3
      He filled out a draft registration card. I don't think he was trying to volunteer.
      It was a special card for those 45 to 65 years old.
      Last edited by djv1255; 12 Nov 07, 12:08.

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      • #4
        My grandfather had three kids and wasn't called up for that reason. The US never reached the bottom of the barrel in WW2, but wanted to know what was available if they had to go deeper. Unlikely that he served, but it never hurts to ask.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Janos View Post
          My grandfather had three kids and wasn't called up for that reason. The US never reached the bottom of the barrel in WW2, but wanted to know what was available if they had to go deeper. Unlikely that he served, but it never hurts to ask.
          Janos,

          It mattered when the children were born as well. My Grandparents had four children but the last two were born from 1939 to 1945, so they "did not count" as far as determining hardship. John Wayne got a deferment from having four children, but I have a feeling his hip might have kept him out, IF HE DID NOT WISH TO BE DRAFTED.

          Funny thing is my grandparents had more kids because my Grandpaw was working regular, not to help him draft dodge. If the US had had to invade Japan, his rear end would have been drafted. There were very few males left to draft.

          One reason there was few males was that underage males started enlisting in droves after Pearl Harbor. That and the Navy was allowing deferred enlistments to 17 year olds. That dried up the crop of 18 year olds in 1944 and 1945 quite a bit.

          Pruitt
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          Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

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          • #6
            John Wayne was 4F because of his knees. He didn't walk they way he did because of Machoism.
            Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

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            • #7
              What hip?

              I had heard a hip injury ended his football career at USC. I don't think he was always 4-F. That rating changed as the war went on and more and more 4-F's found themselves in uniform. Eddie Slovik was initially classed a 4-F and found himself carrying a rifle in the Bulge.

              The Duke was originally rated 3-A (age and family deferment) at the beginning of the war. When it looked like he might get re-rated to 1-A his studio contacted his draft board and requested status 2-A (support of national, health, safety or interest). He did inquire about joining John Ford's unit but never followed up on it. He was quoted as saying he had broke his back once and his hip twice.

              Pruitt
              Last edited by Pruitt; 15 Nov 07, 02:45. Reason: more data
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              • #8
                Thanks all.
                Although I had so little info, I mailed an SF180 form and we will see what they can give me.
                The special form for 45 to 65 does seem like they just wanted to know what and who was available.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                  Janos,

                  It mattered when the children were born as well.
                  Thanks -- I didn't know that.
                  Originally posted by djv1255 View Post
                  Thanks all.
                  Although I had so little info, I mailed an SF180 form and we will see what they can give me.
                  The special form for 45 to 65 does seem like they just wanted to know what and who was available.
                  Pls let us know how it turns out. Curious minds want to know!
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                  • #10
                    There have been some legitimate questions raised about The Duke's 4-F status.
                    His family is quite displeased with them.
                    Who knows...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Trung-si View Post
                      There have been some legitimate questions raised about The Duke's 4-F status.
                      His family is quite displeased with them.
                      Who knows...
                      The Duke is an icon, and like all icons there is some lesser dirtbag somewhere who wants to throw mud on him.

                      It's another form of this among lower forms of life.
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                      • #12
                        I never understand the near hysterical reactions from some folks when encountering something that they disagree with or dislike.
                        I thought a forum was a place for opinions and information.
                        I don't envy John Wayne's penis or anybody else's.
                        I'm not easily intimidated, either.
                        Sticks and stones don't bother me, niether.
                        I been called a braggart lately as well, one had the guts to do it publically, one didn't.
                        I don't recall describing any personal heroics, but am willing to state what I know from history and experience as clearly as I can.
                        At 60 years, I can claim to have seen and studied a thing or two.
                        This is the only time I will ever attempt to justify anything I say, so take notes.

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                        • #13
                          Good post Mike, when one choose to live in the public eye one should expect to have all aspects of it studied.
                          I should imagine that if he had not been famous and had got out military service at that time he would have suffered far worse critisim direct to his face!
                          As for his family being displeased, I bet they feel a whole lot better when the royalty checks roll in!!
                          Wolster

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                          • #14
                            I know I've read that men served in front line combat units that were late were in their 30s and even 40 plus in WWII. I also recall a comment made by a US General quoted in Rick Atkinson's "An Army at Dawn" in which a comment to the affect of "Men in their 50s don't wear down in combat as fast as most would think"...

                            I have no idea what the WWII age cutoff was for combat, but it was definitely over 40. Today it has increased from 32 (27 not that long ago) to 44 I think...

                            I suspect the older men in the WWII "total mobilization" draft here might be for a continental emergency National Guard or Civil Defense role, sort of America's equivalent to the Volksstrum...
                            Last edited by Nickdfresh; 20 Nov 07, 13:35.

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