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    The commander of the B-29 plane that dropped the first atomic bomb, on Hiroshima in Japan in World War II, has died at the age of 92.
    Paul Warfield Tibbets Jr died at his home in Columbus, Ohio.

    The five-ton "Little Boy" bomb was dropped on the morning of 6 August 1945, killing about 140,000 Japanese. Many others died later.

    On the 60th anniversary of the bombing, the three surviving crew members of the Enola Gay said they had "no regrets".

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7073441.stm

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  • #2
    Originally posted by thomas.tmcc View Post
    On the 60th anniversary of the bombing, the three surviving crew members of the Enola Gay said they had "no regrets".
    I don't think it's so true. Everyone who has killed thousands of people with one stroke hasn't a clear conscience. He was lying to himself...
    Last edited by Warlord; 01 Nov 07, 14:39.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Warlord View Post
      I don't think it's so true. Everyone who have killed thousands of people with one stroke hasn't a clear conscience. He was lying to himself...
      I think They know better how they feel then you do. You can say that you would feel guilt but you can not state that they do.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by tsar View Post
        I think They know better how they feel then you do. You can say that you would feel guilt but you can not state that they do.
        I saw an interview with Tibbets a while back and he stated categorically that he would most certainly do it all again if called upon, in lieu of what he'd learned that Japan had in store for the invading Allies coming ashore on mainland Japan in "Operation Olympic and Coronet." It short, his actions ended the war, stopped the killing and dying, therefore, he had no regrets.
        "Profanity is but a linguistic crutch for illiterate motherbleepers"

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        • #5
          From what i know, of course they had regrets anyone would, especially right after, but obviously they must have learned about the invasion plans and the estimated costs in human lives for both sides. Theres was the smaller option.

          Paul W. Tibbets
          The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed. -Carl Jung

          Hell is other people. -Jean-Paul Sarte

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          • #6
            :flag: Colonel Paul Tibbets, USAF, reporting to Heavan. God Speed, Sir.
            Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

            "I'm not expendable; I'm not stupid and I'm not going." - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

            What didn't kill us; didn't make us smarter.

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            • #7
              May I recommend War's End by MG Charles Sweeney, USAF (Ret), who piloted the plane Bock's Car which dropped the device on Nagasaki? He discusses the 509th Composite Group, which Col Tibbets commanded (Sweeney was the second in command (XO?)). Tibbets, by necessity, plays a major role in the account.
              Don't leave good whiskey for the damn Yankees!" John Hunt Morgan, Eagleport, Ohio, July 23, 1863

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              • #8
                RIP Colonel Paul Tibbets

                Thank you for your most valuable service!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Warlord View Post
                  I don't think it's so true. Everyone who has killed thousands of people with one stroke hasn't a clear conscience. He was lying to himself...
                  JULIE CARR SMYTH
                  Associated Press


                  COLUMBUS, Ohio - Paul Tibbets, who piloted the B-29
                  bomber Enola Gay that dropped the atomic bomb on
                  Hiroshima, died Thursday. He was 92 and insisted
                  almost to his dying day that he had no regrets about
                  the mission and slept just fine at night.

                  Tibbets died at his Columbus home, said Gerry
                  Newhouse, a longtime friend. He suffered from a
                  variety of health problems and had been in decline for
                  two months.

                  Tibbets had requested no funeral and no headstone,
                  fearing it would provide his detractors with a place
                  to protest, Newhouse said.

                  Tibbets' historic mission in the plane named for his
                  mother marked the beginning of the end of World War II
                  and eliminated the need for what military planners
                  feared would have been an extraordinarily bloody
                  invasion of Japan. It was the first use of a nuclear
                  weapon in wartime.

                  The plane and its crew of 14 dropped the five-ton
                  "Little Boy" bomb on the morning of Aug. 6, 1945. The
                  blast killed 70,000 to 100,000 people and injured
                  countless others.

                  Three days later, the United States dropped a second
                  nuclear bomb on Nagasaki, Japan, killing an estimated
                  40,000 people. Tibbets did not fly in that mission.
                  The Japanese surrendered a few days later, ending the
                  war.

                  "I knew when I got the assignment it was going to be
                  an emotional thing," Tibbets told The Columbus
                  Dispatch for a story on Aug. 6, 2005, the 60th
                  anniversary of the bomb. "We had feelings, but we had
                  to put them in the background. We knew it was going to
                  kill people right and left. But my one driving
                  interest was to do the best job I could so that we
                  could end the killing as quickly as possible."

                  Tibbets, then a 30-year-old colonel, never expressed
                  regret over his role. He said it was his patriotic
                  duty and the right thing to do.

                  "I'm not proud that I killed 80,000 people, but I'm
                  proud that I was able to start with nothing, plan it
                  and have it work as perfectly as it did,"
                  he said in a
                  1975 interview.

                  "You've got to take stock and assess the situation at
                  that time. We were at war. ... You use anything at
                  your disposal."


                  He added: "I sleep clearly every night."

                  Paul Warfield Tibbets Jr. was born Feb. 23, 1915, in
                  Quincy, Ill., and spent most of his boyhood in Miami.

                  He was a student at the University of Cincinnati's
                  medical school when he decided to withdraw in 1937 to
                  enlist in the Army Air Corps.

                  After the war, Tibbets said in 2005, he was dogged by
                  rumors claiming he was in prison or had committed
                  suicide.

                  "They said I was crazy, said I was a drunkard, in and
                  out of institutions," he said. "At the time, I was
                  running the National Crisis Center at the Pentagon."

                  Tibbets retired from the Air Force as a brigadier
                  general in 1966. He later moved to Columbus, where he
                  ran an air taxi service until he retired in 1985.

                  But his role in the bombing brought him fame - and
                  infamy - throughout his life.

                  In 1976, he was criticized for re-enacting the bombing
                  during an appearance at a Harlingen, Texas, air show.
                  As he flew a B-29 Superfortress over the show, a bomb
                  set off on the runway below created a mushroom cloud.

                  He said the display "was not intended to insult
                  anybody," but the Japanese were outraged. The U.S.
                  government later issued a formal apology.

                  Tibbets again defended the bombing in 1995, when an
                  outcry erupted over a planned 50th anniversary exhibit
                  of the Enola Gay at the Smithsonian Institution.

                  The museum had planned to mount an exhibit that would
                  have examined the context of the bombing, including
                  the discussion within the Truman administration of
                  whether to use the bomb, the rejection of a
                  demonstration bombing and the selection of the target.

                  Veterans groups objected that it paid too much
                  attention to Japan's suffering and too little to
                  Japan's brutality during and before World War II, and
                  that it underestimated the number of Americans who
                  would have perished in an invasion.

                  They said the bombing of Japan was an unmitigated
                  blessing for the United States and its fighting men
                  and the exhibit should say so.

                  Tibbets denounced it as "a damn big insult."


                  The museum changed its plan, and agreed to display the
                  fuselage of the Enola Gay without commentary, context
                  or analysis.

                  He told the Dispatch in 2005 he wanted his ashes
                  scattered over the English Channel, where he loved to
                  fly during the war."

                  The article; I bolded the parts I thought were important as to Warlord's assertion.
                  Last edited by Tankboy; 02 Nov 07, 12:12.
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                  Through Gibralter, to France and Spain.
                  Pit a feather tae your bonnet, and a kilt aboon your knee,
                  Enlist my bonnie laddie and come awa with me.

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