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  • The Biggest Mistake in World War II

    Pick something and defend it

    For me it has to be the Germans declaring war on America and squandering the Luftwaffe on the BOB. Invading Britian (that dirty word that shall not be named) is impossible. Invading America as Yammamoto said is impossible and they will only quit while they are in Washington D.C. If they commited much less to the BOB. The LW would of been in far better shape and would of been able to cause even more havoc among the Soviets and all the fuel that was consumed would of been able to be used to fuel those planes.

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    The Munich agreement. If the West had stood up to Hitler Oster would have had the army in revolt against him and there would have been in WWII.
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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    • #3
      The entire French strategy and diplomacy before WWII. Building the Little Entente, a network of alliances with the small European states east of Germany, but never wondering how to defend THEM if Germany comes after them first. If this Little Entente hadn't fallen apart, Germany would have instead.
      Reaction to the 2016 Munich shootings:
      Europe: "We are shocked and support you in these harsh times, we stand by you."
      USA: "We will check people from Germany extra-hard and it is your own damn fault for being so stupid."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tsar View Post
          The Munich agreement. If the West had stood up to Hitler Oster would have had the army in revolt against him and there would have been in WWII.
          That's very questionable,even more :the whole theory of a possible revolt of the army in 1938,is a postwar invention .

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          • #6
            One may wonder though how the 1938 Wehrmacht would have fared against both the Czechs and the French. Yes, both were hardly prepared for war, but the Wehrmacht wasn't all ready either. And I also wonder if the Poles could have been blackmailed into joining in "either you help us, or we ask the Russians for help in exchange for a nice bit of you".
            Reaction to the 2016 Munich shootings:
            Europe: "We are shocked and support you in these harsh times, we stand by you."
            USA: "We will check people from Germany extra-hard and it is your own damn fault for being so stupid."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Acheron View Post
              One may wonder though how the 1938 Wehrmacht would have fared against both the Czechs and the French. Yes, both were hardly prepared for war, but the Wehrmacht wasn't all ready either. And I also wonder if the Poles could have been blackmailed into joining in "either you help us, or we ask the Russians for help in exchange for a nice bit of you".
              Except that in 1938,Soviet were more that willing to attack Hitler.Western refusal made them change the mind and try to buy more time with Molotov Pacts.
              It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.

              Косово је Србија!
              Never go to war with a country whose national holiday celebrates a defeat in 1389.

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              • #8
                As the SU had no common border with Germany/Czechoslowakia,its intervention would remain ...a theory .

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Acheron View Post
                  One may wonder though how the 1938 Wehrmacht would have fared against both the Czechs and the French. Yes, both were hardly prepared for war, but the Wehrmacht wasn't all ready either. And I also wonder if the Poles could have been blackmailed into joining in "either you help us, or we ask the Russians for help in exchange for a nice bit of you".
                  i don't see why 7 million of Czechs could stop 75 million of Germans,unless one thinks that the 3.5 milion of Sudeten Germans and the Slowaks would fight for the Cechs .
                  The fact is that nobody wanted to fight to prevent the Sudeten to join the Reich:
                  not the Czechs :the claim that they were willing to fight;but were abandoned by B+F ,is only the usual attempt to pass the Black Jack
                  not the West :the Sudeten were no vital interest,and B+F had no legal obligations
                  not the SU :for the same reasons AND because geography was preventing a Soviet intervention.
                  THE exception was Hitler:he wanted war,because,for Hitler,the goal was not the Sudeten,but the destruction of Czechoslovakia.
                  But,as his opponents refused to fight,there was no war .

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                  • #10
                    For me, mistake is starting huge war unprepared...
                    "Give me 100 000 croatian soldiers and I will conqure all world" - Napoleon Bonaparte

                    Soldiers are coming and leaving while war will never end.

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                    • #11
                      I have to agree that declaring war on the USA was the worst. FDR was confronted by both a large isolationist element before Pearl Harbor and a emotional outcry to get Japan after. Hitler seems to have let his personal animosity against FDR influence his judgement.
                      Will no one tell me what she sings?--
                      Perhaps the plaintive numbers flow
                      For old, unhappy, far-off things,
                      And battles long ago:
                      -William Wordsworth, "The Solitary Reaper"

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                      • #12
                        Attack on Pearl Habor seal IJ's fate. That attack brought the US fully into the war, both in Europe and in Asia. Without the US entery Japan would have controlled the Pacific and other allies had a very slim chance of changing that.
                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #13
                          How big of a mistake is spelling the name of your city wrong?
                          Кто там?
                          Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
                          Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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                          • #14
                            The Japanese attacking the United States or the Germans attacking Russia.

                            Both were definitive actions that backfired on the agressor.

                            Sincerely,
                            M
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
                              How big of a mistake is spelling the name of your city wrong?
                              Ya, just how important is that??? Zero.
                              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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