Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Was the German Army (Heer) really so superior?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #46
    Originally posted by ShAA View Post
    What a terrible injustice for guys wearing such cool uniforms, killing inferior peoples with such efficience and staying loyal to their maniacal government to the bitter end!
    Of course the Red Army acted so honorably while serving their own personnel paranoid alcoholic dictator who killed a load of his own people for fear of a coup.

    Comment


    • #47
      I was around 4-5. Better than the available opposition at the start but needed to win with the first punch. Others matched & even bettered the Heer once they found their feet.

      I often wonder how things might have played out if the French had properly defended the Ardennes & the better French & British units had been able to withdraw in good order. Perhaps still a loss, but an interesting scenario if they can hang on until winter.
      Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a god and the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one - Hunter S. Thompson

      Comment


      • #48
        Of course the Red Army acted so honorably while serving their own personnel paranoid alcoholic dictator who killed a load of his own people for fear of a coup.
        Nice. After experts on climate change and muslim world, we have now one specialised in psychiatry and alcoholism.
        There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

        Comment


        • #49
          Originally posted by Bravo Zero View Post
          Of course the Red Army acted so honorably while serving their own personnel paranoid alcoholic dictator who killed a load of his own people for fear of a coup.
          The Red Army defended their country and their people. What did the German army do?
          www.histours.ru

          Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

          Comment


          • #50
            Originally posted by ShAA View Post
            The Red Army defended their country and their people. What did the German army do?
            They tried to do that...
            "I am the Lorax, and I'll yell and I'll shout for the fine things on earth that are on their way out!"

            ~Dr. Seuss, The Lorax


            "The trouble with Scotland...is that it's full of Scots!"

            Comment


            • #51
              They tried to do that...
              Of course. The best location to defend Germany was in Belgium, France, Norway, SU and a bunch of other countries.
              Last edited by Emtos; 04 Feb 12, 17:00.
              There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

              Comment


              • #52
                Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                Of course. The best location Germany was in Belgium, France, Norway, SU and a bunch of other countries.
                Well obviously, I guess I'm referring to the last year of the war.

                Cannot the same sort of be said of the Soviet Union (as they occupied half of Europe after the war). Although that wasn't necessarily for "defense."
                "I am the Lorax, and I'll yell and I'll shout for the fine things on earth that are on their way out!"

                ~Dr. Seuss, The Lorax


                "The trouble with Scotland...is that it's full of Scots!"

                Comment


                • #53
                  Well obviously, I guess I'm referring to the last year of the war.
                  Without the events ofs 1939-1942, there will be no need for them to defend their motherland. They put themsalves in this postion unlike the others who were forced to fighting agains an invasion.


                  Cannot the same sort of be said of the Soviet Union (as they occupied half of Europe after the war). Although that wasn't necessarily for "defense."
                  It's different for various raisons and defense agains a Western attack was one of them. But this is a subject for another thread.
                  There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

                  Comment


                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                    It's different for various raisons and defense agains a Western attack was one of them. But this is a subject for another thread.
                    And that's justified? By that logic Germany could have taken over half of Europe so that they would be able to "feel" safe from USA.
                    A wild liberal appears! Conservative uses logical reasoning and empirical evidence! It's super effective! Wild liberal faints.

                    Comment


                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Wellington95 View Post
                      Well obviously, I guess I'm referring to the last year of the war.
                      Well, it's like saying "I was just defending myself!" after you smash a group of people in the face and then start blocking their return blows. I wonder if you're joking or what?

                      Cannot the same sort of be said of the Soviet Union (as they occupied half of Europe after the war). Although that wasn't necessarily for "defense."
                      I hope you're not joking again. The policies of the Soviet Union were totally incomparable to what the Nazis did. And what would be necessary for the "defense" of a country which had been invaded innumerable times throughout the last millenium, both from the West and the East? I could bet a casket of whiskey that had US had a powerful rival on the continent which had repeatedly invaded it, it would have done everything short of total genocide to secure itself from his invasions, including keeping independent buffer nations under its thumb.
                      www.histours.ru

                      Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

                      Comment


                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Destroyer25 View Post
                        And that's justified? By that logic Germany could have taken over half of Europe so that they would be able to "feel" safe from USA.
                        Did the USA have a land border with Germany? Did the USA proclaim itself a mortal enemy of Germans and the German way of life? Did the USA claim German lands?
                        www.histours.ru

                        Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

                        Comment


                        • #57
                          And that's justified? By that logic Germany could have taken over half of Europe so that they would be able to "feel" safe from USA.
                          USA taken half of the Europe to be safe from USSR.
                          There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

                          Comment


                          • #58
                            Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                            Did the USA have a land border with Germany? Did the USA proclaim itself a mortal enemy of Germans and the German way of life? Did the USA claim German lands?
                            Russia didn't have a land border with Germany. They didn't need to oppress Eastern Europe for a decade but they did. They could have given those countries independence but they didn't.

                            Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                            USA taken half of the Europe to be safe from USSR.
                            USA did not occupy Europe in the manner that the USSR did. The W. Allies liberated, the USSR conquered. France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, and Italy all got independence after being liberated. Eastern Europe did not.
                            A wild liberal appears! Conservative uses logical reasoning and empirical evidence! It's super effective! Wild liberal faints.

                            Comment


                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                              USA taken half of the Europe to be safe from USSR.
                              Good point. To be more correct, the US bought half of Europe so that the ruling classes of France and Italy wouldn't let the freely and fairly elected Communists participate in their governments. So much for democracy-schlemocracy the US likes to lecture everybody on
                              www.histours.ru

                              Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

                              Comment


                              • #60
                                *gentle nudge* Stay on topic gentlemen.
                                Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

                                "I'm not expendable; I'm not stupid and I'm not going." - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

                                Comment

                                Latest Topics

                                Collapse

                                Working...
                                X