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  • The death of 'Green Tail'...

    This piccy has fascinated me since I was a little kid...

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    The long toll of the brave
    Is not lost in darkness
    Over the fruitful earth
    And athwart the seas
    Hath passed the light of noble deeds
    Unquenchable forever.

  • #2
    Obviously, the hun had forgot to put on his parachute...
    ARRRR! International Talk Like A Pirate Day - September 19th
    IN MARE IN COELO

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    • #3
      What about the Laws of Physics, whereby all bodies fall at the same rate?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Herman Hum View Post
        What about the Laws of Physics, whereby all bodies fall at the same rate?
        Ze German machine vill remain in the skies as long as possible, given devotion to ze vaterland…


        actually- he probably wasn't on the ground for long...just until the babes arrive
        The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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        • #5
          UNLESS he was downed over Manitoba, which means ' slow Valkyries, plow horses...'

          The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by marktwain View Post
            UNLESS he was downed over Manitoba, which means ' slow Valkyries, plow horses...'
            Which is the Valkyrie and which is the plow horse?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Herman Hum View Post
              What about the Laws of Physics, whereby all bodies fall at the same rate?
              They do not! Air resistance can cause an object to fall slower.
              ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
              All human ills he can subdue,
              Or with a bauble or medal
              Can win mans heart for you;
              And many a blessing know to stew
              To make a megloamaniac bright;
              Give honour to the dainty Corse,
              The Pixie is a little shite.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dibble201Bty View Post

                They do not! Air resistance can cause an object to fall slower.
                In a vacuum all bodies fall at the same rate and just to be sure one of the Apollo missions did the experiment on the moon
                Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Herman Hum View Post
                  Which is the Valkyrie and which is the plow horse?
                  the Valkyrie is the …..no, maybe the second picture…, dunno, do plow horses weaR wear - horns??
                  Why do I get all the tough questions....

                  anyhow, back on topic- the SE-5 was a real game changer for the allies, especially after Wolseley refined the Hispano suiza engine into the Wolseley Viper...
                  the Kaisereich had stuck with six cylinder in lines, rather than attempt to solve the complex balance and harmonics concerns of a V8, and could not match the 138 MPH Se-5.

                  Wolseley is an unsung hero of the British War effort. their work enabled the American Liberty engine to be built in record time...

                  The BMW IIIa was Germany's answer- too late in the war... and the viper:

                  Last edited by marktwain; 29 Jul 19, 07:55.
                  The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                  • #10
                    Is that pic based on description in "Flying Fury" by James McCudden's of Feb 18, 1918 action?

                    A little bit of googling found the following...
                    It was assumed that it was Otto Konnecke of Jasta 5 which all had green tails. Research though seems to show that even though Jasta 5 was previously in 56 Sgn's sector it had moved south during the timeframe in question. A German war diary entry for Jasta 35b reports a Justus Kaiser shot down and Stein wounded in the location and at the time which matches what McCudden reported.

                    A quick google of Jasta 35b images shows all aircraft with white tails so go figure.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Canuckster View Post
                      Is that pic based on description in "Flying Fury" by James McCudden's of Feb 18, 1918 action?

                      A little bit of googling found the following...
                      It was assumed that it was Otto Konnecke of Jasta 5 which all had green tails. Research though seems to show that even though Jasta 5 was previously in 56 Sgn's sector it had moved south during the timeframe in question. A German war diary entry for Jasta 35b reports a Justus Kaiser shot down and Stein wounded in the location and at the time which matches what McCudden reported.

                      A quick google of Jasta 35b images shows all aircraft with white tails so go figure.
                      From the Gutenberg Project:
                      KUDOS to anyone who recognizes this famous aviator..
                      The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                        the Valkyrie is the …..no, maybe the second picture…, dunno, do plow horses weaR wear - horns??
                        Why do I get all the tough questions....

                        anyhow, back on topic- the SE-5 was a real game changer for the allies, especially after Wolseley refined the Hispano suiza engine into the Wolseley Viper...
                        the Kaisereich had stuck with six cylinder in lines, rather than attempt to solve the complex balance and harmonics concerns of a V8, and could not match the 138 MPH Se-5.

                        Wolseley is an unsung hero of the British War effort. their work enabled the American Liberty engine to be built in record time...

                        The BMW IIIa was Germany's answer- too late in the war... and the viper:
                        Unfortunately although the prototype Liberty was built in record time it contained many flaws that meant getting it to production status took longer and only a limited number were available before the Armistice. Large numbers reached completion just too late. One result was that the US had a huge post war surplus of Liberties and Congress issued regulations that inhibited the use of in line liquid cooled engines in US military aircraft until all the Liberties were used up. This skewed US engine development towards air cooled radials
                        Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                        Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MarkV View Post

                          Unfortunately although the prototype Liberty was built in record time it contained many flaws that meant getting it to production status took longer and only a limited number were available before the Armistice. Large numbers reached completion just too late. One result was that the US had a huge post war surplus of Liberties and Congress issued regulations that inhibited the use of in line liquid cooled engines in US military aircraft until all the Liberties were used up. This skewed US engine development towards air cooled radials
                          A good thing, in the end

                          while France regarded the H-s engines as ' pour la gloire, toujours La Gloire', the viper's design concept as a two way trip engine for aircraft appealed to pilots...

                          V- cylinder crankshafts are actually hard to design and produce in quantity. The early reduction gear Hispano engines shook the reducing gears apart. the Liberty made a good - boat engine..
                          The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by marktwain View Post


                            V- cylinder crankshafts are actually hard to design and produce in quantity. The early reduction gear Hispano engines shook the reducing gears apart. the Liberty made a good - boat engine..
                            Not half as difficult as those for X cylinder configurations as Rolls Royce were later to discover with the Vulture

                            Aircraft had a better performance when fitted with the Rolls Royce Eagle rather than the Liberty but the latter was easier to produce in large numbers. The Liberty wasn't suited to every aircraft and a Liberty engined Bristol Fighter proved to be a disaster. Liberty engined Dh4b s served the USN into the 30s.
                            Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                            Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                              Not half as difficult as those for X cylinder configurations as Rolls Royce were later to discover with the Vulture

                              Aircraft had a better performance when fitted with the Rolls Royce Eagle rather than the Liberty but the latter was easier to produce in large numbers. The Liberty wasn't suited to every aircraft and a Liberty engined Bristol Fighter proved to be a disaster. Liberty engined Dh4b s served the USN into the 30s.
                              I could not agree with you more,- but the Eagle was in high demand post war, while a Liberty could be had a bargain price- to power your neighbourhood rum runner.

                              PLUS you could fit three of them into the stern, so the mechanic could work on one, while the other two outran the Coast guard cutter.
                              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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