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    It appears the USN is going to be short an amphibious assault ship for awhile. The fire has been burning for more than a day.

  • #2
    The impression I get from reading other articles, is the ship could be a write off.
    "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
    Ernest Hemingway.

    "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
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    • #3
      Also, the navy just spent $250 million and two years maintenance...
      "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
      Ernest Hemingway.

      "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
      Mark Twain.

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      • #4
        Forward mast has collapsed.

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        "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
        Ernest Hemingway.

        "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
        Mark Twain.

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        • #5
          surely this ship is a write off..? 1 of only 9 remaining i hear....a big loss.

          Are the US currently building any LHDs at the moment...they may need to order an additional hull if thats the case..?

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          • #6
            You can see the scorched marks along the hull left from the fire, appears that most of the superstructure has been damaged... serious structural failure where the forward mast was.

            "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
            Ernest Hemingway.

            "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
            Mark Twain.

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            • #7
              Some update in regards to the ship.

              “There is fire and water damage, to varying degrees, on 11 of 14 decks,” Gilday wrote. “With the flight deck as a reference, I walked sections of the ship 5 levels below and had the opportunity to examine the superstructure.

              “The island is nearly gutted, as are sections of some of the decks below; some perhaps, nearly encompassing the 844 ft length and 106 ft beam of the ship ([Naval Sea System Command’s] detailed assessment is ongoing). Sections of the flight deck are warped/bulging.”
              https://www.defensenews.com/naval/20...JcWDLqaE1oTWxQ
              "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
              Ernest Hemingway.

              "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
              Mark Twain.

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              • #8
                It sounds like it's a write-off, but what do I know...

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                • #9
                  I agree. Sounds like we're just going to be short a jeep carrier.....period.
                  Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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                  • #10
                    It’s salvageable, but it’s age and tight port schedules for the rest of the navy will dictate the outcome I feel.
                    Personally I’d be interested to invest it as a one off light carrier in order to become a operational test bed for emerging technologies in UAVs and remote helicopters... the US navy has at least 50 years of experience in the later.
                    "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                    Ernest Hemingway.

                    "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
                    Mark Twain.

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                    • #11
                      It would be more useful than the Zumwalts...not that that's saying much.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
                        It’s salvageable, but it’s age and tight port schedules for the rest of the navy will dictate the outcome I feel.
                        Personally I’d be interested to invest it as a one off light carrier in order to become a operational test bed for emerging technologies in UAVs and remote helicopters... the US navy has at least 50 years of experience in the later.
                        This has some merit given the trend in UAV and F-35 sort of air resources. What is needed is a mid-point level vessel with flight deck that can provide air support = CAP, CAS, RECON, Troop lift, and other support to over the shore operations or other "Power Projection" in coastal and close-in waters where one might not want to risk the larger CVs ~ which could stand-off 100-200 miles off shore to support.

                        While multi-role vessels like LHDs have value and use in something of Marine Expedition use upon foreign shores; A middle-level combat flight deck vessel focused mostly on the local air support roles and needs would seem a desired asset and force multiplier. More modern tech with it's automation and advanced equipment reducing the size ship crew load makes such more competitive than in decades past. Also spares the need, use, and risk of the larger CVs when such are becoming few, at more danger of harm, and more expensive to operate.

                        This should lead to more of the flight deck and hanger features and a smaller and limited interior dock/deck component.

                        If BH's hull remains sound, then worth consideration of using as a base for something newer and more tailored to expected mid-21st century amphibious needs.
                        Last edited by G David Bock; 28 Jul 20, 19:24.
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                        • #13
                          This looks real bad.

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                          "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                          Ernest Hemingway.

                          "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
                          Mark Twain.

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                          • #14
                            Looks like an expect-able consequence of combat and effective hits by enemy ordnance.

                            IIRC, no ships of this type/classes ~ amphibious with flight deck, have been attacked and damaged in recent decades. There were hints of what to expect during the Falklands War, nearly four decades ago. With advances in weaponry since then, especially cruise missiles and similar projectiles/platforms that could be used against ships of this type, one positive take-away might be some gauge on what to expect in combat situations where the "enemy gets through" and how to redesign and upgrade ships of this sort to better absorb damage and deal with being hit.

                            Highly probable that in the future it will be amphib~small "carriers" doing show the flag and intervention operations that will put them on the front line of response/attack from opponents/enemies. Hopefully future designs (and upgrades) might learn from this experience on how to improve on containment and counter, damage control, to fire producing hits. Maybe less aluminum in ships structure?
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                            “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                              Looks like an expect-able consequence of combat and effective hits by enemy ordnance.

                              IIRC, no ships of this type/classes ~ amphibious with flight deck, have been attacked and damaged in recent decades. There were hints of what to expect during the Falklands War, nearly four decades ago. With advances in weaponry since then, especially cruise missiles and similar projectiles/platforms that could be used against ships of this type, one positive take-away might be some gauge on what to expect in combat situations where the "enemy gets through" and how to redesign and upgrade ships of this sort to better absorb damage and deal with being hit.

                              Highly probable that in the future it will be amphib~small "carriers" doing show the flag and intervention operations that will put them on the front line of response/attack from opponents/enemies. Hopefully future designs (and upgrades) might learn from this experience on how to improve on containment and counter, damage control, to fire producing hits. Maybe less aluminum in ships structure?
                              just curious why you think we'd be using an amphib for show the flag missions, when that was a mission specifically held in mind for the LCS and now the new FFGs to free up the DDGs and CGs that have primarily doing them....why would we multiply the commitment of ships, and manpower by 5 or 6 times for a show the flag mission in the future, in your opinion?

                              i do agree that hopefully they'll be able to learn some lessons to make future amphibs and maybe even future Fords more survivable...something good has to come out of this.
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