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  • After Delays, A-29 Attack Aircraft to Arrive in Afghanistan in 2016

    Kind of a disjointed article but the gist is:

    The Air Force has been working to get a fixed-wing attack aircraft to the Afghan Air Force since at least 2011. In 2012, a $428 million contract was awarded to the Brazilian company Embraer S.A. and its American partner, the Sierra Nevada Corp., for 20 A-29 single-engine turboprops with an option for another 20, but the award was challenged by Beechcraft Corp.
    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...stan-2016.html
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    Sandys with Afghan pilots.

    Mr. Serling, I'm ready for my close-up now.
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    • #3
      Here's hoping there's still an "Afghan" to accept them when they become available.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by OpanaPointer View Post
        Sandys with Afghan pilots.

        Mr. Serling, I'm ready for my close-up now.
        Nowhere near as good, as rugged or as heavily armed as the venerable Sandy's, I'm afraid. These are ore like Tinkertoy airplanes for nations that have trouble operating their camels.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Nowhere near as good, as rugged or as heavily armed as the venerable Sandy's, I'm afraid. These are ore like Tinkertoy airplanes for nations that have trouble operating their camels.
          Semi-Sandy? You're making things worse.

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          • #6
            It works and is appropriate for the theater.

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            • #7
              Good to known our enemies are using 1960s technology.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pirate-Drakk View Post
                Good to known our enemies are using 1960s technology.
                To be fair the M16/M4 is 1960s technology and then there's the M2HB which is pretty much unchanged from the 1920s. There's even talk in the FA community of bringing back the M2 pack howitzer in some form based on experiences in Afghanistan. Just because something is old doesn't mean it's not effective. In some cases old systems can do things newer ones can't or can do them more effectively.
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                • #9
                  The WWII-Era Plane Giving the F-35 a Run for Its Money

                  On December 5, 2001, an American B-52 flying tens of thousands of feet above the ground mistakenly dropped a 2,000-pound satellite-guided bomb on an Army Special Forces team in Afghanistan. The aircrew had been fed the wrong coordinates, but had the plane been flying as low and slow as older generations of attack planes did, the crew might’ve realized their error simply by looking down at the ground
                  http://motherboard.vice.com/read/low-and-slow

                  Good News for Afghan Air Force,

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by vikram72 View Post
                    The WWII-Era Plane Giving the F-35 a Run for Its Money



                    http://motherboard.vice.com/read/low-and-slow

                    Good News for Afghan Air Force,
                    That's absurd. The entire point of the weapon was to allow aircraft to fly at safe altitudes.

                    The article, like most in Vice, is untrue to the point of fiction. The real reason that SF team was bombed was because the operator of the GPS tracking unit was unfamiliar with the functions of the device, and accidently hit a key which automatically plugged in his own exact position.

                    In short, a failure to train, failure to mission prep, and operator headspace caused the incident, not the aircraft or the delivery system.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by frisco17 View Post
                      To be fair the M16/M4 is 1960s technology and then there's the M2HB which is pretty much unchanged from the 1920s. There's even talk in the FA community of bringing back the M2 pack howitzer in some form based on experiences in Afghanistan. Just because something is old doesn't mean it's not effective. In some cases old systems can do things newer ones can't or can do them more effectively.
                      Our helmet's shape dates back to 1915.

                      There's a time for new high tech, and a time for cheaper tested and well-proven systems.
                      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by vikram72 View Post
                        The WWII-Era Plane Giving the F-35 a Run for Its Money



                        http://motherboard.vice.com/read/low-and-slow

                        Good News for Afghan Air Force,

                        That really wouldn't have helped. A GPS guided bomb is programmed with a set of target coordinates either before it takes off or in the air by the pilot. If it was preprogrammed then it would have made no difference and and I'm not sure if the pilot programing capability even existed in 2001. Even if it had JTAC on the ground is the one that would pass target coordinates to the aircraft and the pilot wouldn't necessarily need to visually acquire to target to the point where he could differentiate friendly and enemy infantry in order to engage the target he was given. If the pilot was passed bad coordinates that's the JTACs failure not the pilot's and not the aircraft's. B-52, A-10 or anything else JDAMs all work the same way regardless of platform. Plus most of the time you can a more detailed and prolonged look at a target out of an aircraft targeting pod than you can looking out the window, even if you are at treetop level. It's also worth noting that the Super Tucano is not a WWII era aircraft. It's 1980s vintage at best.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by vikram72 View Post
                          The WWII-Era Plane Giving the F-35 a Run for Its Money



                          http://motherboard.vice.com/read/low-and-slow

                          Good News for Afghan Air Force,
                          I tried to read this article but the writing is pretty bad, and whatever points are trying to be made are difficult to understand. From what I can tell the "author" of this article advocates more A-10s? He or she thinks that the A-10 is older tech than the B-52 apparently, and that the failure of a GPS guided bomb was caused by an incorrect drop from the bomber crew, which is ridiculous. Guided weapons of this sort depend on intel, and bad intel from the ground caused the accident, just as it would have with an A-10 or this A-29 thing...either of those planes are capable of dropping ordnance on the wrong target too. The article is extremely narrow-minded and assumes that the A-29 would be immune to enemy fire, when in fact it would be highly vulnerable to ground fire...maybe even small arms type fire. Stupid article really, not sure if this source is very reliable.

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                          • #14
                            Of course not! It is not reliable.
                            It is a Canada based network.
                            They are lying all year long.
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