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  • Why not more C-5Ms?

    http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/20..._dover_042909/

    It costs significantly less to upgrade a Galaxy to the M standard than it costs to buy new C-17s whic Congress keeps buying over the USAF/DOD objections.
    The C-5M provides a unique airlift capability that should be maximized.. if the old airframes still have life in them then hopefully theu can modernize as many as possible.

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    Originally posted by kuma View Post
    http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/20..._dover_042909/

    It costs significantly less to upgrade a Galaxy to the M standard than it costs to buy new C-17s whic Congress keeps buying over the USAF/DOD objections.
    The C-5M provides a unique airlift capability that should be maximized.. if the old airframes still have life in them then hopefully theu can modernize as many as possible.
    52 airframes well be about half of the fleet, by 2016. I didn't read that they were stopping the upgrades after 16. The improvements are fantastic. IF it really only needs 1500 foot of runway then this is putting them into the class of 130's. Of course to t/o you have to land first. Nothing seen on that data.
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
      52 airframes well be about half of the fleet, by 2016. I didn't read that they were stopping the upgrades after 16. The improvements are fantastic. IF it really only needs 1500 foot of runway then this is putting them into the class of 130's. Of course to t/o you have to land first. Nothing seen on that data.

      Amazing what new, more powerful engines can do.. plus the other upgrades as well..

      http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123167592
      C-5M Super Galaxy unofficially sets 41 world records

      Posted 9/14/2009

      by Capt. Marnee Losurdo
      512th Airlift Wing Public Affairs

      9/14/2009 - DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, Del. -- A Dover aircrew flying a C-5M Super Galaxy, named The Spirit of Normandy, unofficially set 41 world records in a single flight, taking off from the base before dawn Sept. 13.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
        52 airframes well be about half of the fleet, by 2016. I didn't read that they were stopping the upgrades after 16. The improvements are fantastic. IF it really only needs 1500 foot of runway then this is putting them into the class of 130's. Of course to t/o you have to land first. Nothing seen on that data.
        I would suggest the figure quoted in the article are for a takeoff with minimum fuel and no cargo. Other figures I have seen suggest almost 3000m(10,000') with a full load for the older model.
        "Required take-off distance with 797.000lb: 2987m" http://www.worldwide-military.com/Mi...fo_english.htm

        The new model will offer a significant improvement, but the take off/landing won't be in the same class as a Herc(for % of load factor).
        "It's like shooting rats in a barrel."
        "You'll be in a barrel if you don't watch out for the fighters!"

        "Talking about airplanes is a very pleasant mental disease."
        — Sergei(son of Igor) Sikorsky, 'AOPA Pilot' magazine February 2003.

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        • #5
          Gee, and it wasn't too long ago that the AF was all set on the C-17 and was dumping on the C-5. Funny how priorities change!

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          • #6
            It only had a light fuel load and no cargo but still provides a good comparison vs. the old configuration. The Old Girl still has plenty of life left in her, just like the BUFF.

            The four General Electric CF6 engines each produce 50,580 pounds of thrust, up from the 43,000 pounds pushed out by the old General Electric TF-39 engines. Now, a C-5M with 50,000 pounds of fuel needs only 1,500 feet to get airborne, while the older C-5s need 3,000 to 4,000 feet.

            “Faster than a Corvette in a quarter mile,” commented Lt. Col. Mike Semo, Loper’s counterpart with Dover’s Reserve unit, the 512th Airlift Wing.

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            • #7
              I've been of the opinion that Israel should have considered putting the C-5 on its currency or at least have issued a commemorative stamp for the terrific job it did during the '73 war. Who knows? If not for that plane and its smaller C-141 sidekick, Israel may very well have been forced to resort to nukes.

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