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  • Best Tank Destroyer of WW II

    We've had an ongoing debate about what was the best tank of WW II. In that conversation some tank destroyers were mentioned. Lets give them their own thread. Both the turreted designs the US favored and the non-turreted designs favored by Germany and the Soviet Union should be considered.

    Just to start things off I'll mention a favorite of mine, the German Hetzger. Based on a Czech chassis with a powerful 75mm gun it was fast and had an extremely low profile. It served until the end of the war and many were used after the war by Switzerland.
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    I'll say the Elefant for just shear armored. The Jagdtiger also.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by dannybou
      I'll say the Elefant for just shear armored. The Jagdtiger also.
      Both of them were basically moving pill boxes and they were only produced in small numbers. The Elefant didn't even have an anti-personnel MG and was very vulnerable to enemy infantry. Personally I'd want something more mobile.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lance Williams
        Both of them were basically moving pill boxes and they were only produced in small numbers. The Elefant didn't even have an anti-personnel MG and was very vulnerable to enemy infantry. Personally I'd want something more mobile.
        Slight correction, they initially didn't have hull machine guns, but after Kursk the hulls were rebuilt with hull machine guns and a new commanders cupola.

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        • #5
          My vote: Jagdpanther. Panther mobility combined with the dreaded 88. Good armour, low profile...a lean mean hunting machine.

          For the Allies: I'd have to go with the SU-100. Similiar to the Jagdpanther, but uses a Russian 100mm that is still in service today.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RStory
            Slight correction, they initially didn't have hull machine guns, but after Kursk the hulls were rebuilt with hull machine guns and a new commanders cupola.

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            You are correct that the Elefants that survived Kursk did add some defensive MG's and were far more effective in Italy than they were in Russia. Part of this is due to the more mountainous terrain and there was also better coordination with the infantry.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by RStory
              My vote: Jagdpanther. Panther mobility combined with the dreaded 88. Good armour, low profile...a lean mean hunting machine.

              For the Allies: I'd have to go with the SU-100. Similiar to the Jagdpanther, but uses a Russian 100mm that is still in service today.

              Cheers!


              The SU series by the Soviets was very successful. They were used long after WW II ended

              The SU-85 and SU-100 were based on the T-34 chassis. The ultimate SU of the series was based on the JS-2 heavy tank chassis. The JSU-152 could defeat even the front armor on the Tiger. It was nicknamed the "Animal Killer".
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lance Williams
                The SU series by the Soviets was very successful. They were used long after WW II ended

                The SU-85 and SU-100 were based on the T-34 chassis. The ultimate SU of the series was based on the JS-2 heavy tank chassis. The JSU-152 could defeat even the front armor on the Tiger. It was nicknamed the "Animal Killer".
                :thumb: Thanks for the info! I thought the JSU-122/152s were SPGs rather than tank destroyers!

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                • #9
                  Well, I guess that would depend

                  Should we take into account the amount of resources necessary to build one compared with available resources?

                  My personal favorite is the Hetzer, whether or not it was the best.

                  It was low to the ground, very mobile, mounted a High Velocity 75mm and could kill just about anything...and could hide just about anywhere. I've seen pictures where they had hidden inside a building....to do their killing.

                  Just my personal favorite.....you guys know me....got to run my mouth a bit :P

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                  • #10
                    Re: Well, I guess that would depend

                    Originally posted by moondog

                    My personal favorite is the Hetzer.

                    The Hetzer is a nice one. Still, I'd rather have a Jagdpanther. Interesting note: Besides the Swiss; the Czecks also used the Hetzer after the war. (The Swiss bought theirs from Czechoslovakia.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RStory
                      My vote: Jagdpanther. Panther mobility combined with the dreaded 88. Good armour, low profile...a lean mean hunting machine.

                      For the Allies: I'd have to go with the SU-100. Similiar to the Jagdpanther, but uses a Russian 100mm that is still in service today.
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                      • #12
                        The jagdpanther gets my vote also.

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                        • #13
                          I would have to say the strumgaschutz aufs G. It was basicaly a well armored panzer IV with a side armor plating and a 75mm gun, along with an MG-34 anti-personal machine gun! It also was somewhat faster than other tank-killers!!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RStory
                            My vote: Jagdpanther. Panther mobility combined with the dreaded 88. Good armour, low profile...a lean mean hunting machine.
                            For the Allies: I'd have to go with the SU-100. Similiar to the Jagdpanther, but uses a Russian 100mm that is still in service today.
                            Exactly right on both counts. You have hit the nail on the head as always, RStory.
                            I like the Hetzer for its speed and maneuvability, but if I had to go kill something, I'd want a JagdPanther or an SU-100.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RichardS
                              :thumb: Thanks for the info! I thought the JSU-122/152s were SPGs rather than tank destroyers!

                              Cheers!


                              Their gun was technically a howitzer so I guess they could have been used for indirect fire too.
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