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  • #16
    Originally posted by johns624 View Post
    Maybe it's a Star Wars in reverse? We kept up the publicity about Star Wars even though we knew it wasn't technologically feasible just to bankrupt the USSR. Maybe they are doing the same. The news are always claimed to be leaks but everyone knows Putin doesn't do "leaks". Also, they flip the bad to make it look good. They announce that their corvettes carry cruise missiles that will reach Syria and we get scared because they are putting them on such small vessels. Look at the flip side...they are putting them on corvettes because they can't build anything bigger right now.
    The things with bankrupcy by military expenditures doesn't work. Economy will not crack because of that and even if it does, it's not really a trouble.
    There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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    • #17
      Originally posted by nastle View Post

      in many key areas NATO outnumbered the USSR
      The numbers in Europe were in advantage for Warsaw Pact.
      There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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      • #18
        ATTU region yes but NATO did not count the reserves ( which were in much better condition than soviet reserves) and the gigantic reinforcements that can be brought in from USA
        refering specifically to airforces and navies

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        • #19
          Originally posted by johns624 View Post
          Maybe it's a Star Wars in reverse? We kept up the publicity about Star Wars even though we knew it wasn't technologically feasible just to bankrupt the USSR. Maybe they are doing the same. The news are always claimed to be leaks but everyone knows Putin doesn't do "leaks". Also, they flip the bad to make it look good. They announce that their corvettes carry cruise missiles that will reach Syria and we get scared because they are putting them on such small vessels. Look at the flip side...they are putting them on corvettes because they can't build anything bigger right now.
          even when they did put such missiles on "rocket cruisers" these ships were only good to patrol the bastion seas and be just another part of their sea denial strategy
          Those ships might have looked like they gave them a blue water capability but they never had a navy that can accomplish those aims
          Whats different now is that their missiles are smaller , tech is better and they do not need to build huge cruisers to mount them

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          • #20
            Originally posted by nastle View Post
            ATTU region yes but NATO did not count the reserves ( which were in much better condition than soviet reserves) and the gigantic reinforcements that can be brought in from USA
            refering specifically to airforces and navies
            I wouldn't say that NATO reserves were in much better condition, They were much smaller since not all countries had the mandatory military service. The reinforcements from US would be useless since SU would be occupying the ports at the time of their arrival.
            There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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            • #21
              Originally posted by nastle View Post
              ATTU region yes but NATO did not count the reserves ( which were in much better condition than soviet reserves) and the gigantic reinforcements that can be brought in from USA
              refering specifically to airforces and navies
              Only if we controlled the airspace, extremely unlikely that close to Soviet airbases. Air transports are incredibly vulnerable.

              In the meantime, during the 70's, the Soviet Union/ Warsaw Pact outnumbered us 15 to one in every category. They also practiced with chemical weapons...and we did nit.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                Only if we controlled the airspace, extremely unlikely that close to Soviet airbases. Air transports are incredibly vulnerable.

                In the meantime, during the 70's, the Soviet Union/ Warsaw Pact outnumbered us 15 to one in every category. They also practiced with chemical weapons...and we did nit.
                for example....so there were 15 Mig-21s to every equivalent NATO jet Mirage III/F-4/Lightning/F-104/F-5 ?? this is not counting the USAF in north america , or Canadians

                thats not possible , more likely in the air NATO outnumbered WP atleast 2 to 1 , if not more

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                • #23
                  Plus U.S. and N.A.T.O. tank crew are far better trained. Look at what we did to the Iraqi army in Desert Storm.

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