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    Is Nth Korea the only country now using coastal artillery in fortified positions?

    IIRC, Sweden disbanded some turrets back in 1997(?), Norway in 2003, and Spain in 2008.
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    Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
    Is Nth Korea the only country now using coastal artillery in fortified positions?

    IIRC, Sweden disbanded some turrets back in 1997(?), Norway in 2003, and Spain in 2008.
    http://www.military-today.com/artillery/bereg.htm
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    • #3
      Just a question---how is that any different than any other SP artillery?

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      • #4
        Does Gibraltar still man its guns?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
          Does Gibraltar still man its guns?
          Yes I believe it still does, Gibraltar is the only battle honour traditionally held by the RM (despite its record ) so it could well be manned still because of that tradition. lcm1
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          • #6
            According to the Chinese Peoples Daily

            The naval coastal defense force is composed of shore-to-ship missile and coastal artillery units, which have capabilities to defend China's coasts.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by johns624 View Post
              Just a question---how is that any different than any other SP artillery?
              Traditional SP artillery is less adapted to engaging assault landing craft and other naval fast movers.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Traditional SP artillery is less adapted to engaging assault landing craft and other naval fast movers.
                There are a number of commentators/experts who claim that modern SP guns are preferable to fixed positions for coastal defence being better able to evade preliminary bombardment and counter battery fire.
                Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  Traditional SP artillery is less adapted to engaging assault landing craft and other naval fast movers.
                  No offence meant MM, the WW2 landing craft even the small ones were not designed to go fast. Even the LCAs, that were considered the faster and suitable for initial assault would be the equivalent to a loping run on land but I suppose the more modern variety could be faster. lcm1
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
                    Is Nth Korea the only country now using coastal artillery in fortified positions?

                    IIRC, Sweden disbanded some turrets back in 1997(?), Norway in 2003, and Spain in 2008.
                    Our town had biggest in the World coastal fortress but it is museum today.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fareasterner View Post
                      Our town had biggest in the World coastal fortress but it is museum today.
                      In Vladivostok? That I didn't know, I must do a bit of reading to learn more about that one, many thanks.

                      Does it have a name?
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                      • #12
                        Ours didn't survive WW2. They were deemed obsolete early on.

                        Here's a bunker and fire control tower in Cape May, NJ.






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                        • #13
                          Has there been considerable beach erosion at Cape May? I only ask because I find it unusual to see that bunker right out on the beach.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                            Just a question---how is that any different than any other SP artillery?
                            A lack of knowledge on the big guns, but possibly better range and enhanced software.
                            My worst jump story:
                            My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                            As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                            No lie.

                            ~
                            "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
                            -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lcm1 View Post
                              No offence meant MM, the WW2 landing craft even the small ones were not designed to go fast. Even the LCAs, that were considered the faster and suitable for initial assault would be the equivalent to a loping run on land but I suppose the more modern variety could be faster. lcm1
                              The RHIB's go quite fast, and modern amphibs, especially the latest Marine Corps variant powered by water jets, go fairly fast as well. Fastest of all, I believe, are the current LCAC's used by the Marine Corp to land armor well up on the beaches, which are capable of very fast speeds.



                              I was thinking as well of the need to engage multiple targets and then relocate rapidly to avoid the inevitable area shore bombardment.

                              I have some experience with SP artillery from my military days - SP 155's to be specific.

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